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67jason
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is it possible to install a bug 67 tranny into a 60 kg? anything i need to know or is it just a straite swap?
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Gary
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peterericb
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ok... since the 67 bug might be 12 volt... I would try to find an earlier tranny (66 or earlier) because the 12 volt transmission has differences from a 6V (which your ghia was originally), but I am not 100% sure what they are.
Also it is important to select a good gear ratio for your engine... a later tranny designed for more horsepower might make an older engine feel extremly underpowered...
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67jason
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ok... since the 67 bug might be 12 volt... I would try to find an earlier tranny (66 or earlier) because the 12 volt transmission has differences from a 6V (which your ghia was originally), but I am not 100% sure what they are.
Also it is important to select a good gear ratio for your engine... a later tranny designed for more horsepower might make an older engine feel extremly underpowered... |
thanks for the input. i will be converting the car to 12 volt anyhow. i have a good 67 tranny and thought that would be best to intstall because it is already designed for the 12 volt flywheel. just wasnt sure if there were any mounting differences between an earlier swing axel and a later swing axel. for now ill be using a 1600 sp with future plans of a 2 litre. |
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Gary
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ok... since the 67 bug might be 12 volt... I would try to find an earlier tranny (66 or earlier) because the 12 volt transmission has differences from a 6V (which your ghia was originally), but I am not 100% sure what they are.
Also it is important to select a good gear ratio for your engine... a later tranny designed for more horsepower might make an older engine feel extremly underpowered... |
67 Bus is 12V. Ghias and Bugs shared the same transmissions(mechanicals).
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67jason
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ok... since the 67 bug might be 12 volt... I would try to find an earlier tranny (66 or earlier) because the 12 volt transmission has differences from a 6V (which your ghia was originally), but I am not 100% sure what they are.
Also it is important to select a good gear ratio for your engine... a later tranny designed for more horsepower might make an older engine feel extremly underpowered... |
67 Bus is 12V. Ghias and Bugs shared the same transmissions(mechanicals). |
not sure what your saying icy, but 67 bug, and all models i believe, are 12 volt for US spec cars. |
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Gary
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| 67jason wrote: |
| Icy wrote: |
| peterericb wrote: |
ok... since the 67 bug might be 12 volt... I would try to find an earlier tranny (66 or earlier) because the 12 volt transmission has differences from a 6V (which your ghia was originally), but I am not 100% sure what they are.
Also it is important to select a good gear ratio for your engine... a later tranny designed for more horsepower might make an older engine feel extremly underpowered... |
67 Bus is 12V. Ghias and Bugs shared the same transmissions(mechanicals). |
not sure what your saying icy, but 67 bug, and all models i believe, are 12 volt for US spec cars. |
I meant Bug. Sometimes my fingers have a mind of their own.
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67jason
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ahh i see.  |
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snookerdude
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| i'm confused. if the tranny is not an autostick what is electrical about the tranny.....unless we are talking about the starter which is getting changed to 12v. maybe a really late mod. has a sensor of some type??? on my 7the ghia and only the autosticks had sensors. |
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Gary
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| i'm confused. if the tranny is not an autostick what is electrical about the tranny.....unless we are talking about the starter which is getting changed to 12v. maybe a really late mod. has a sensor of some type??? on my 7the ghia and only the autosticks had sensors. |
The starter is electrical. 6V and 12V starters are different.
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The starter is a simple fix, most folks just continue to run 6v starters in their 12V cars forever.
But, 1967 axles are slightly longer so you may have a problem with tires rubbing against the rear wheel wells, especially if you plan on running something besides stock wheels and tires.
Since people seem to have problems with rear tires rubbing all the time I think maybe you should avoid making it worse by using a 67.
I'm assuming you just want to swap the whole assembly here. |
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| I installed the '66 axles on my '67 Ghia, and was a lot happier with the appearance and fit. While you're doing the job, you may as well change out your '60 axles, as they're rather weak compared to later axles of the same length. |
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ovalboy
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| Are the 67 and early 68 ghia axles the same length? I have an early 68 with a rear disc brake conversion. I want to use those brakes on my 67 but thought that the 68 axles were longer. |
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coad
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| Are the 67 and early 68 ghia axles the same length? I have an early 68 with a rear disc brake conversion. I want to use those brakes on my 67 but thought that the 68 axles were longer. |
I thought it was 67 and 68 that got longer and they were the same (longer length_ both years, but I'm not a transmission person so what do I know. |
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