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vdubinit Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 1870 Location: central coast
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:09 am Post subject: Rear fenders? |
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i was just wondering if there is anyway of knowing the difference with 56 to 61 rear bug fenders compared to 62 to 67 bug rear fenders besides the holes for the rear taillight assemblys
i have been looking for months for a set of OG rear oval window fenders
but I have had no luck iam doing a resto on a 56 vert and my body guy is going to need some rear fenders in the next month or so
any pics or advice is always appreciated or any help on locating some
OG rear fenders for an oval would be awesome thanx
_________________ **WANTED** ONE 4 1/2 EARLY FUCH |
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kafer53 Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2004 Posts: 903 Location: Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Alot of guys are using repop rear fenders and filling or repairing the holes in them for the older cars as rears are hard to find in decent condition.
As far as I know, there is no difference in the fenders from 56-67. They should all have the same holes for the bumper overiders unless yours is a european model.
I think the only difference is the hole pattern for the new tailights that were introduced in 1962 like you mentioned. _________________ 1953 Zwitter 11C (L73) |
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Mark Evans Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2004 Posts: 1929 Location: Alsea,Oregon
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Early fenders have the ribs between the bolt mounting holes. Filling in the overider holes is the easy part. _________________ '63 Ragtop |
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vdubinit Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 1870 Location: central coast
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:34 pm Post subject: vw |
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so do you mean on the inner side of the fender where it bolts to the the body there are raised pieces of metal (ribs) between each bolt hole
does anyone have a picture of this itried a search but didnt find anything
if you do post it thanx _________________ **WANTED** ONE 4 1/2 EARLY FUCH |
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oval54 Samba Member
Joined: November 16, 2004 Posts: 13 Location: Hannover, Germany
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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hi,
right, the ribs are between the bolt holes. But i think ribbed fenders were only split window and early ovals 1954/55. |
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Major Woody Samba Enigma
Joined: December 04, 2002 Posts: 9010 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:56 pm Post subject: |
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My '56 oval fenders are ribbed/pleated and they have factory holes for snowflake taillights not heart or egg taillights. |
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vdubinit Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 1870 Location: central coast
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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i found this in the gallery it say its a 54 rear fenders so it should have hearts right???
but my question is
how the bolt holes look for the taillight is that the same on how my bolt holes should look like for a u.s. spec 56 vert
just the holes in the fender not the height of the taillight mounting
trying not to confuse ya _________________ **WANTED** ONE 4 1/2 EARLY FUCH
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Hebster52 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2003 Posts: 1764 Location: Finland, Jakobstad
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vdubinit Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 1870 Location: central coast
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:12 pm Post subject: vw |
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i heard that oval fenders are slightly wider or something hey maybe im wrong im just trying to figure out the truth
or just a useable set for sale
has anyone modified there 62 to 67 rear fenders (any pics of the out come ) _________________ **WANTED** ONE 4 1/2 EARLY FUCH |
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fifty-five Samba Crash Test Dummy
Joined: August 27, 2004 Posts: 1188 Location: over by the Farm
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:21 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for starting this thread. I'm having the same problem finding good rear fenders for my 56. I want to use German fenders this will help in what I can use and be correct. _________________ FUCK CANCER
1955 Ragtop Oval
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Major Woody Samba Enigma
Joined: December 04, 2002 Posts: 9010 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: vw |
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vdubinit wrote: |
i heard that oval fenders are slightly wider or something hey maybe im wrong im just trying to figure out the truth
or just a useable set for sale
has anyone modified there 62 to 67 rear fenders (any pics of the out come ) |
I have never heard this.
Those holes look like heart or egg bulbholder to me?
I think the difference in fenders being a different shape on splits/ovals refers to the shape of the front fenders, not the rears. But I have never had a nice later rear fender to compare my oval fenders to. As soon as I got the oval fenders for my car, I gave the other ones away.
I think I paid Camerod $100 a fender but that was a few years ago. |
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Major Woody Samba Enigma
Joined: December 04, 2002 Posts: 9010 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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I read in HotVWs that "Zito Pereira" rear fenders have the pleated strengthening marks on the flange and would just need to be drilled for the bulbholders. You could call around to a bunch of shops and see if they had a pair. Most of the shops around here carry IGP rear fenders which can be made to fit pretty well but don't have the ribs on the flange. You would need to drill these for your bulbholders as well, and MIG up the old holes which are intended for '62-'67 taillights and maybe the overrider bracket holes depending on what bumpers your car came with.
Here is a link to the company, based in Brazil. It's a start...
http://www.zitopereira.ind.br/ click on "produtos" and then "paralamas" and you will see the part.
Several forum contributors buy directly from large vw aftermarket part wholesalers. Perhaps they could make some inquiries for you if you strike out.
Good luck and please update this thread with any progress you make!
Chris
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vdubinit Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2005 Posts: 1870 Location: central coast
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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think the difference in fenders being a different shape on splits/ovals refers to the shape of the front fenders, not the rears. But I have never had a nice later rear fender to compare my oval fenders to. As soon as I got the oval fenders for my car, I gave the other ones away.
I think I paid Camerod $100 a fender but that was a few years ago
so do you have any pics of the rear fenders so I can get a clue of what to look for _________________ **WANTED** ONE 4 1/2 EARLY FUCH |
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Major Woody Samba Enigma
Joined: December 04, 2002 Posts: 9010 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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I could take some. The fenders are out in the garage, waiting for the blaster. What do you want to see in the pictures? |
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babyblueoval Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2002 Posts: 124 Location: Central Arkansas
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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I just read this and wanted to shed a little light on the differences in early rear fenders.
I'm nearly positive the ribbed fenders were the same from, I believe '55 thru '60. When the tail lights changed to the larger tail lights ('61?), the ribs between the bolt holes went away. The obvious difference is the location of the mounting holes for the tail lights but that can fairly easily be changed to lower the tail lights. All the fenders from '67 down will fit on an oval and they will look very similar but the shape of the ribbed fenders is a little different if you are looking at them from the rear of the car. The ribbed fenders curve up a little quicker than the later fenders do making them look a little narrower. They aren't but they do appear that way.
I hope this helps some. After re-reading it I'm not sure it does but maybe.
It took me a long time to find a set of correct fenders for my '57 so if you need them just keep looking. They are out there. Or just put on the later ones. Very few people will know they're not correct anyway.
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Oval Mike Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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My 56 has ribbed fenders in as good condition as you could find for their age. But they are definitely hard to find. At bug o rama in Sept. I saw one of the vendors sellling a set of aftermarket fenders that were ribbed. I think it was Airhead parts but im not totally sure. But they dont look half as good as og ones. |
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OC Resto-Rod Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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The ribs or dimples between the fenders bolt holes were from early ovals through '60. Keep looking, there out there. |
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vdubinit Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:24 am Post subject: |
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:57 pm Post subject:
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major woody wrote
I could take some. The fenders are out in the garage, waiting for the blaster. What do you want to see in the pictures
lets see the ribs or dimples everyone is stalking about since i and it seems a few others have never seen before
and possibly if you could mark a horizontal linefrom the top mounting hole in the fender of the taillight mounting with a measurement from the fender edge (bolt side) straight across to the top bolt hole of the taillight mounting hole in the fender
to another measurement of the same hole in the fender taillight mount (the upper hole) but vertically from the bottom edge of the fender
kinda like finding the X marks the spot idea
but write down the measurment or shoot a pic with a measuring tape
i hope thats no to confusing but I might just modify some 63 fenders I got for now till I find OGs
and hey you will be the person that fixes this huge mess/arguement
thanx if you can help _________________ **WANTED** ONE 4 1/2 EARLY FUCH |
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Hebster52 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 2:49 am Post subject: |
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This is how the dimples look like between the bolt holes. This pic is taken from my original split rearfender. I also compared it with my early 70's rearfender and the only difference was the taillight position and the bolting lip. Otherwise it was exaclty identical to the split one in every curve and shape...
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Hebster52 Samba Member
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