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EverettB 
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| I have this unique VW 58 model but haven't found the same model to compare prices, for this reason, I don't have a selling price and I'm willing to listen different offers!!! |
Yeah, no kidding you couldn't find another one.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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| nineteensixtyfiveVG wrote: |
I love when people call cars an investment. Sure, cars have went up in value and yes VWs have had a big jump but you can never make assumptions about what car prices are going to do.
Please dont try to convince me buying your car is a good financial investment. |
General advice for everything:
If someone tells you it's an investment, it's not.
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I agree it's overpriced, but I could totally see myself finding a use for it on various construction projects. Just have to convince the boss to invest in self-contained lift equipment. I mean we could slap company stickers on it too hahaha
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| ...I went at it from both ends but going from the rear didn't seem to do anything, although I did spray some rust breaker in there... |
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npbusguy
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It is a 15 window deluxe, though it looks like it needs a lot of work. The perspective on the lead photo is all wonky, but maybe it looks better in person. |
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Lind
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 6:29 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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It is a 15 window deluxe, though it looks like it needs a lot of work. The perspective on the lead photo is all wonky, but maybe it looks better in person. |
I can almost guarantee it looks worse in person.
I bet it is a Brazilian bus. It just doesn't look like like the normal hackery we see around these parts.
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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It is a 15 window deluxe, though it looks like it needs a lot of work. The perspective on the lead photo is all wonky, but maybe it looks better in person. |
I can almost guarantee it looks worse in person.
I bet it is a Brazilian bus. It just doesn't look like like the normal hackery we see around these parts. |
That's what I was thinking too. It looks like a South American hack. Would have to see more to see if it is a true 58 German bus. But no price in the ad. So maybe it could be had cheap but doubt it. |
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OMG it looks worse than when he listed it for several years while under the carport. I had hopes it didn't have as much rust but I see I was wrong. 
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| nineteensixtyfiveVG wrote: |
I love when people call cars an investment. Sure, cars have went up in value and yes VWs have had a big jump but you can never make assumptions about what car prices are going to do.
Please dont try to convince me buying your car is a good financial investment. |
General advice for everything:
If someone tells you it's an investment, it's not. |
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| Have you considered simply starting with a nicer bus? I don't know what your skills are, but the race is easier if you can see the finish line. If you are not a runner, don't start off doing a marathon. |
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Cherry as if it never was used. Hump back seat, right? Aftermarket mirrors. Question about the Hurst; is that an original made for later bumper or did they modify it? |
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| Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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It is a 15 window deluxe, though it looks like it needs a lot of work. The perspective on the lead photo is all wonky, but maybe it looks better in person. |
I can almost guarantee it looks worse in person.
I bet it is a Brazilian bus. It just doesn't look like like the normal hackery we see around these parts. |
That's what I was thinking too. It looks like a South American hack. Would have to see more to see if it is a true 58 German bus. But no price in the ad. So maybe it could be had cheap but doubt it. |
Not sure what more needs to be seen? Everyone knows that VW started using single black side mirrors on buses in about 1958 maybe 1959. No need to call the antique road show here. |
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Cherry as if it never was used. Hump back seat, right? Aftermarket mirrors. Question about the Hurst; is that an original made for later bumper or did they modify it? |
It doe have a mint front hump seat.
The side mirrors could be original - those were an accessory.
Good question on the Hurst. I don't know if that's an original and if it's a real one for a later bumper or a modified ribbed bumper guard
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mandraks
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Cherry as if it never was used. Hump back seat, right? Aftermarket mirrors. Question about the Hurst; is that an original made for later bumper or did they modify it? |
It doe have a mint front hump seat.
The side mirrors could be original - those were an accessory.
Good question on the Hurst. I don't know if that's an original and if it's a real one for a later bumper or a modified ribbed bumper guard |
obviously, a Ruthmann Steiger would not have export bumpers in the rear.
i have seen a couple of these in germany, unrestored. I think they are more of a museum or show vehicle than anything else. The Steiger is very heavy. cool though
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| Aftermarket mirrors. Question about the Hurst; is that an original made for later bumper or did they modify it? |
The side mirrors could be original - those were an accessory. |
They ARE repro mirrors; the kind that shimmy. They ARE like, "How Long IS a Chinese name".
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| Question about the Hurst; is that an original made for later bumper or did they modify it? |
Good question on the Hurst. I don't know if that's an original and if it's a real one for a later bumper or a modified ribbed bumper guard |
OK, for some reason, I didn't realize Hurst made one for later bumpers. |
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| nineteensixtyfiveVG wrote: |
I love when people call cars an investment. Sure, cars have went up in value and yes VWs have had a big jump but you can never make assumptions about what car prices are going to do.
Please dont try to convince me buying your car is a good financial investment. |
General advice for everything:
If someone tells you it's an investment, it's not. |
OMG it looks worse than when he listed it for several years while under the carport. I had hopes it didn't have as much rust but I see I was wrong.
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| Okie Adam wrote: |
| LAGrunthaner wrote: |
| EverettB wrote: |
| nineteensixtyfiveVG wrote: |
I love when people call cars an investment. Sure, cars have went up in value and yes VWs have had a big jump but you can never make assumptions about what car prices are going to do.
Please dont try to convince me buying your car is a good financial investment. |
General advice for everything:
If someone tells you it's an investment, it's not. |
OMG it looks worse than when he listed it for several years while under the carport. I had hopes it didn't have as much rust but I see I was wrong.
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I still want it |
Only if you are an "elite" collector.
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It is a 15 window deluxe, though it looks like it needs a lot of work. The perspective on the lead photo is all wonky, but maybe it looks better in person. |
I can almost guarantee it looks worse in person.
I bet it is a Brazilian bus. It just doesn't look like like the normal hackery we see around these parts. |
That's what I was thinking too. It looks like a South American hack. Would have to see more to see if it is a true 58 German bus. But no price in the ad. So maybe it could be had cheap but doubt it. |
Not sure what more needs to be seen? Everyone knows that VW started using single black side mirrors on buses in about 1958 maybe 1959. No need to call the antique road show here. |
skinny dogleg one side, fat the other
...but no price, so if cheap enough someone could have fun with it. Just don't think of 'restoring ' it... just using it as a driver. Go ahead, paint flowers on it. |
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The idea of someone raising the bucket with it 'stabilized' on that 4x4 seems like a Darwin's award event.
I agree it's over priced. It probably is low milage, though. Ruthmann trucks just don't get used much. They are just very heavy. And the weight is high up, so cornering is not ideal.
They are super cool, though.
Agree on the front 'Hurst' and rear overriders and mirrors being added.
Also think a Ruthmann has the taillights re-located further out, and tended to be a utilitarian bright shade of orange.
They also tend to have German installed salt rust. Looks like the one for sale was restored. Pics of M-code plate? Engine?
Gallery pics of "ruthmann": https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php...t_dir=DESC
Also search for 'cherrypicker'
this is the only pic I found that was not orange:
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| Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:18 pm Post subject: Re: Official whine about Buses and parts for sale |
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| Clara wrote: |
The idea of someone raising the bucket with it 'stabilized' on that 4x4 seems like a Darwin's award event.
I agree it's over priced. It probably is low milage, though. Ruthmann trucks just don't get used much. They are just very heavy. And the weight is high up, so cornering is not ideal.
They are super cool, though.
Agree on the front 'Hurst' and rear overriders and mirrors being added.
Also think a Ruthmann has the taillights re-located further out, and tended to be a utilitarian bright shade of orange.
They also tend to have German installed salt rust. Looks like the one for sale was restored. Pics of M-code plate? Engine?] |
That's Joe Gunyan's truck. He's alive and well so not sure how the seller "inherited" it...
I just talked to him about a week ago and two people are selling it for him.
It's neat but kinda useless unless he got the bucket working...it never did the whole time he's had it.
The Hurst is a real one though. It has the stamping right on it and he had that on there long before any repos were ever made.
The orange bay window lift truck for sale in the classifieds used to be his too...but someone else owns it now.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2188260
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| Clara wrote: |
skinny dogleg one side, fat the other
...but no price, so if cheap enough someone could have fun with it. Just don't think of 'restoring ' it... just using it as a driver. Go ahead, paint flowers on it. |
Its got that 'Brazilian bus' rain gutter thingy on the drip rail. Guess it is a BB.
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