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mpribanic Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:26 am Post subject: Large tire/big meats - Stock suspension Bus thread |
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OK,
I decided to edit the title of this thread. I know there is a thread on suspension, wheels & tires for lowered buses. Didn't see one for stock buses with large tires/ big meat buses. Here is what I want to put on mine:
Anyone know if these will fit on a 1958 split bus at stock height? I'd be running 15" crows feet rims.
I recall there was a single cab on the west coast who had a tire that looked like this.
Here are the specs:
Firestone - 700-15 FIRESTONE MILITARY NDCC
SKU 587117
Construction: 6 ply nylon
Load Capacity: 1720 @ 50 psi
Tube Type: Requires Tube
Overall Diameter: 29.50
Cross Section: 7.80
Max Inflation: 50
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Touch Nicks Thing Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt it. |
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Sweet Rides Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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I have some 670R15 6ply bridgestones on my bus and they fit, just! |
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mpribanic Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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Sweet Rides wrote: |
I have some 670R15 6ply bridgestones on my bus and they fit, just! |
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thom Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:53 pm Post subject: |
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I think they'd be too tall, or close to it. A 205/70 is roughly 25 1/2" tall - these are 4" taller than tat! _________________ -Thom
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ezcamper Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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tubes........ I don't know about that. |
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BUCIOBATISTI Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: Firestone - 700-15 FIRESTONE MILITARY NDCC |
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mpribanic wrote: |
Anyone know if these will fit on a 1958 split bus at stock height? I'd be running 15" crows feet rims.
I recall there was a single cab on the west coast who had a tire that looked like this.
Here are the specs:
Firestone - 700-15 FIRESTONE MILITARY NDCC
SKU 587117
Construction: 6 ply nylon
Load Capacity: 1720 @ 50 psi
Tube Type: Requires Tube
Overall Diameter: 29.50
Cross Section: 7.80
Max Inflation: 50
Price: $86.00 |
I got something vaguely similar to that for the back of my 1960 Kombi years ago, I believe that the size was the same, and I didn't have to even mount them to see that they wouldn't fit. They would have rubbed in at least one way from what I recall. I *really* would have loved to stuff some nasty looking nobby bias plies up in there but I wasn't able to find something stylish, vintage, and the right size to do it. _________________ Please check us out on Instagram at @holygrailgarage
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eddiemoney East Coast Scavenger
Joined: April 08, 2004 Posts: 1950 Location: Orlando
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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in the other thread on colby's bus some one said that 30 inch tires can fit under a bus. but that might be only if it is a raised beam or running raised spindles. _________________ --------------------------------------
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WhitewallsJohnson Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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They look tuff MP but i bet theyd never fit without lifting.
My 225-70-14 A/Ts work out to about 26.5 inches over all diameter and 8.8 inches wide. Ive got about 1.5 inches at the closest point at the rear of the dog legs. Your NDCCs are 29.5 inches overall diameter which means Zero clearance.
But then again, the NDCCs are a little narrower, as is the 15 inch rim. Maybe it could tuck inside the dogleg, but i wouldnt bet on it.
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j.pickens Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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Its too bad, but it appears that most of the serious heavy duty tires which will fit are only available in 14" rim sizes. I looked them up on various websites and was able to find over 15 tires in a 14" which are LT or better rated, or offroad, with diameters of 28 inches or less. The 15" tires are very limited. _________________ Founder and Chairman Emeritus, ECMSAS
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mpribanic Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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j.pickens wrote: |
Its too bad, but it appears that most of the serious heavy duty tires which will fit are only available in 14" rim sizes. I looked them up on various websites and was able to find over 15 tires in a 14" which are LT or better rated, or offroad, with diameters of 28 inches or less. The 15" tires are very limited. |
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derRHDmeister Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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I did similar research and wanted to use exactly same military spec tires- but this wont work because its almost 30 inch diameter - WONT FIT.
My bus has 215/75r15 hercules terra tracs, 6 ply, very good and strong. (heard they dont make em any more) they run abt 27.1 inches tall. Works perfectly and doesnt rub- a tight fit and have to deflate rear tires to mount em!
in '07 , went on shasta snow trip with these wheels and it ripped up the backroads w/out plms-
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derRHDmeister Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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this is for stock suspension set up. Im not sayin g 30" tires wont fit, im sure they will with modifications to suspension etc. _________________ Ask not what your bus can do for you, but ask what you can do for your bus.
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SHSC Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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You could always narrow the beam and tub it! _________________ DKB |
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faster Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Did you sling the rabbit into the fence with those big tires
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mpribanic Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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faster wrote: |
Did you sling the rabbit into the fence with those big tires
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60freak Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:04 pm Post subject: |
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ohh yes, good ol dead coyote road, miles and miles of dead coyotes, everytime I show these pics to someone they freak out.....man what a fun trip though and that road was way cool. |
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VWsArent4Hippies Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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vw-in-neptune wrote: |
in the other thread on colby's bus some one said that 30 inch tires can fit under a bus. but that might be only if it is a raised beam or running raised spindles. |
Yea, there's no way a 30 inch tire could fit under a stock height bus. The tires on my bus are 30 inches tall, and they caught the doglegs even with the turned beam. For the back however, I think they would work _________________
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mpribanic Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject: |
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VWsArent4Hippies wrote: |
vw-in-neptune wrote: |
in the other thread on colby's bus some one said that 30 inch tires can fit under a bus. but that might be only if it is a raised beam or running raised spindles. |
Yea, there's no way a 30 inch tire could fit under a stock height bus. The tires on my bus are 30 inches tall, and they caught the doglegs even with the turned beam. For the back however, I think they would work |
I found this in the thread about Colby's Standard...Here's an edited quote per Big Bus Mike
"That being said, You can run up to a 30" tall tire in the rear w/o modification and no body clearance issues. "...
Anybody else run 30" tall tires in the rear?
How tall a tire can you fit in the front suspension?
I'd like to hear what people with stock buses are running for large meats.
Size and brand's please
Thanks,
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mpribanic Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Touch Nicks Thing wrote: |
I doubt it. |
Nick,
What are you running on the Veta Crete panel?
Size?
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