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mike yapps
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 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject: ECU Tester: What's it worth? |
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I have a VW 1218 ECU tester and was wondering what it may be worth if anything. I'm not sure if it works and not sure how to test it without having something to test. Let me hear some imput. It's just like the one in the link below.
http://members.rennlist.com/pbanders/testers.htm#vw1218
I figure the t3 owners out there would know.
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Russ Wolfe
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What do you want? I might be willing to buy a pig in a poke, if the price is right.
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mike yapps
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I am mainly trying to find out the value of this thing. I don't know what it is worth, that's why I'm askin'. If a price sounds good I may sell it.
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mine was free -- there you go: give it to Russ
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I bought one for $5, another for $50 (I think), and another for $150. The $5 I gave to the DDB. I know they all work because they all gave the same results on a couple guinea pigs  So prices are all over the board. If condition is unknown then it's worth $0 to $50 tops.
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Mine was free as well, got it from Blankmange who got it from someone else for cheap or free.
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bugginmiami
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| Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:58 am Post subject: tester |
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saw one at our show last year for sale for $50.. i didnt buy it... the dude that did, put it on the bay and got 150 for it.. so you never know.. they apparently work for 914s too and it was a 914 guy that bought it, at least that one.
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mike yapps
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That's what I wanted to know. So I guess it's either nothing or up to $150. Guess it's like anything else, It all depends on whose buying and what they're willing to pay.
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And if it works...
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mike yapps
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| Yeah... and that too. |
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i just got a EFAW193 at a swap meet today at a fair price and am going to plug my square into it in the morning. Turns out the test procedure is printed in the bently for my tester..
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raygreenwood
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Nice to play with for actually checking ECU functions in order....but other than that....and liking to have a cool piece of trivia....you can do more and better with a digital volt meter. Totally uncessary in this day and age to work on D-jet. Nice collectible though!
That limits the technical value to just above $8...(the cheapest I have found a digital volt meter that will do fine for D-jet). On the other hand the collectors value is limited only to what someone who really wants to collect one is willing to pay for it.Ray |
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KTPhil 
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With a small exception, those testers do no more than you can do with a VOM. They were made to save dealers time (money) not to do more sophisticated diagnosis. In about 30 minutes the dealer can run thorough tests of all wires and sensors, and a small portion of the ECU circuits. Done manually with a VOM, it would be about 2 hours. Unimportant for the backyad mechanic, but a moneymaker for the dealer. They cost about $5K new. Saving 90 minutes at $20/hour (with overhead) paid back in about 250 tests, which was probably less than two years of work. It also saved training costs since it was a "cookbook" process requiring little actual understanding of the system.
But I think they are cool anyway! |
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Alex's swap meet score was a pretty clean looking unit, cool to have around.
Nice to meet you yesterday, Alex. |
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| I'd be interested in a schematic of the unit... a great learning experience. But I don't want to risk ruining it to make one. |
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Russ Wolfe
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This is the one we used back when I was at the dealers. It made it fairly simple to adjust the MPS. Along with an exhaust gas analyzer.
I sold one of these recently to a person in Europe. Seeing as how the Europeans never go the FI on their cars, I can only assume that buyer had an American version car.
I personally have the 1218 tester. It works pretty good, and will tell you pretty quick what part of the system the trouble is in, and where to use your VOM.
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How do test a E.C.U. by itself with a volt meter?  |
You don't. The 1218 can test a few of the circuits, but not comprehensively. But the fact is, if it runs at all, the ECU is probably fine.
You test the wires and sensors with a VOM, though. That's all the VW and Bosch testers do. They just automate it. |
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| How do test a E.C.U. by itself with a volt meter? |
You don't. The 1218 can test a few of the circuits, but not comprehensively. But the fact is, if it runs at all, the ECU is probably fine.
You test the wires and sensors with a VOM, though. That's all the VW and Bosch testers do. They just automate it. |
The P.O. of Mr. P cut most of the harness wires, but left everything else in its place. So, now she has an E.C.U. that needs to be tested, to derive whether it is usable.
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| Adriel Rowley wrote: |
| How do test a E.C.U. by itself with a volt meter? |
You don't. The 1218 can test a few of the circuits, but not comprehensively. But the fact is, if it runs at all, the ECU is probably fine.
You test the wires and sensors with a VOM, though. That's all the VW and Bosch testers do. They just automate it. |
The P.O. of Mr. P cut most of the harness wires, but left everything else in its place. So, now she has an E.C.U. that needs to be tested, to derive whether it is usable. |
I've got a 1218 Tester.
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