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steponmebbbboom
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| The bad senders that I have seen all have areas of the wire grid worn through. How do you refurbish these? |
A good, thorough cleaning under the wire grid. I am searching for a source for nickelchromate wire to replace the resistor the float makes contact with to complete the circuit. |
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Gary
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| Icy, how much are you thinking of charging? I've got sender on my '71 that needs a little rehabbing. I was just at BD and $80 seems a bit steep, but maybe that's just me. |
I'm thinking $15 - $20. That includes the postage to ship it back to you.
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Thirstytank
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Are you going to have a way to test them?...I'm just curious, I may send you mine before I install the engine just to have some confidence in it.
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Gary
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| Are you going to have a way to test them?...I'm just curious, I may send you mine before I install the engine just to have some confidence in it. |
Ahhh, much doubt in you I sense. Testing is very simple. It requires a multimeter and the ability to put the test probes in the right place. (NO! Not there, you sicko!)
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Thirstytank
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| Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:22 am Post subject: |
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| Icy wrote: |
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| Are you going to have a way to test them?...I'm just curious, I may send you mine before I install the engine just to have some confidence in it. |
Ahhh, much doubt in you I sense. Testing is very simple. It requires a multimeter and the ability to put the test probes in the right place. (NO! Not there, you sicko!) |
That's great Icy, I will be pulling the tank on my 72 and I will mail you the sender. Will you accept some incense and patchuli for payment?
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Gary
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| Are you going to have a way to test them?...I'm just curious, I may send you mine before I install the engine just to have some confidence in it. |
Ahhh, much doubt in you I sense. Testing is very simple. It requires a multimeter and the ability to put the test probes in the right place. (NO! Not there, you sicko!) |
That's great Icy, I will be pulling the tank on my 72 and I will mail you the sender. Will you accept some incense and patchuli for payment? |
Damn hippy. 
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timmy74006
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Gary
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Cool. Guess I will adjust my price accordingly. Then again, I did say my price includes return shipping 
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werker
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Ok, so the idea of free market economics isn't so bad all the time. 
That being said, I'll still post my sender to Icy when I pull it from my 69.
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vwkombi1966
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hey guys, rember this: the sending units off of a 68-69 bus (should have have a build stamp of 1967 or 1968 on the head of the sending unit) is MUCH EASIER to rebuild because of how the FLOAT is designed in those years! oh, and they are JUST as accurate....
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steponmebbbboom
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| 2431 Replacement Electric Fuel Sender (in tank) fits T-2 '55-72 and Karmann Ghia '67- 2/'73 |
Hang on a second. Look at the split vs baywindow tanks:
Now I havent gone out and compared the senders with my own eyes, but are they truly the same? |
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Gary
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| 2431 Replacement Electric Fuel Sender (in tank) fits T-2 '55-72 and Karmann Ghia '67- 2/'73 |
Hang on a second. Look at the split vs baywindow tanks:
Now I havent gone out and compared the senders with my own eyes, but are they truly the same? |
The sending units for the Split Window Busses are about 2" shorter than the Bay Window units. I can pull one and post pics of the both for comparision.
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vwkombi1966
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steponme: ok check it out, the bay window tank is a 15 gallon tank. the splitwindow is a 10 gallon tank. you'll have to translate all that into LITRES for you guys north of the border, but this is what it boils down to:
- like ICY said, the SPLIT WINDOW sending unit (10.7 gallon) is about 1 1/2 inches SHORTER than the BAYWINDOW (15 gallon) unit, because the baywindow tank is DEEPER. now it's possible to use a splitwindow sender in a bay tank (in an emergency), but because of the splitty probe is shorter, you are gonna have one HELL of a "reserve". any gas\petrol that falls below the shorter "splitty" probe, can't be indicated on your gas guage, wich means that when the splitty guage reads "empty" you could have 3 gallons of gas left, or simply vapors.....
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steponmebbbboom
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| Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| this is what I was thinking, so it looks like Icy has the market cornered on the "correct" sender after all. |
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vwkombi1966
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well, i won't say "cornered", you can still buy sending units else where, but who the HELL wants to pay up to $40 SUD for a fuel sending unit?!? ya know? believe me, it was NOT EASY rebuilding mine, and we "munched" 2 others before we got it right! but i think that anything that helps keep an aircooled  on the road a little longer is a good thing! 
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steponmebbbboom
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| Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I certainly wouldnt pay $40 for the incorrect sender. I will keep an eye out for the resistive wire in the meantime, those two sites may indeed have it but there's a lot to sift through. |
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bdann
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I'd be wary just because of the price. The next cheapest I can find on that part is Cip1 @ $65, though they also list the same part for T2 55- 1/73.
Bus Depot lists separate parts for the split bus sender and the bay bus sender. the split sender is only $30. draw your own conclusions. |
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regalasr
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| One other bit of economic info. The Pick-Your-Parts here in Los Angeles charge $13 for the senders. Same price for one that works or does not work. So maybe I will not be sending cores 'cause that doesn't leave any room for profit. I have been taking them out and testing them with my meter in the yard and only keeping the good ones. |
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Gary
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 7:24 am Post subject: |
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| One other bit of economic info. The Pick-Your-Parts here in Los Angeles charge $13 for the senders. Same price for one that works or does not work. So maybe I will not be sending cores 'cause that doesn't leave any room for profit. I have been taking them out and testing them with my meter in the yard and only keeping the good ones. |
Check your PM. I'll take non-operating units as well.
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vwkombi1966
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| One other bit of economic info. The Pick-Your-Parts here in Los Angeles charge $13 for the senders. Same price for one that works or does not work. So maybe I will not be sending cores 'cause that doesn't leave any room for profit. I have been taking them out and testing them with my meter in the yard and only keeping the good ones. |
the issue with old sending units that test "good" out of the junk yard is that it MAY test ok fresh from the nasty gas tank you yanked it from, but it most likely WON'T give you the PROPPER values with all that nast crud that you CAN'T SEE inside the tube\head! you have to think of senders as one big RESISTOR. the CLEANER it's internal contacts are, the more accurate it will be! after yaers of diong it's job, SMALL AMOUNTS of corrosion can cause the sending unit to read less & less accurately. so, a sending unit that gives you a propper varying resistance, might not be giving the FULL SPECTRUM of propper resistances. that's why ICY and i are stressing getting a sending unit REBUILT. it's the propper original part, it works well, and will last for many more years to come. why the hell would somebody want a crappy brazillian made sending unit that is made with the cheapest parts\materials that they can get away with? everybody KNOWS about the quality of garbage made in brazill. most of us buy that crap because we have had no other choice.... 
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