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chimivee
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Frank Condelli installed his that way:
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That's exactly what I was thinking. Thanks.
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westyventures
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westyventures
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| westyventures wrote: |
Frank Condelli installed his that way:
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That's exactly what I was thinking. Thanks. |
I would recommend separating the cool air return however - this could be accomplished by adding holes to the electronics cover plate (the original return would be blocked by the door) and then venting the cubby by cutting a hole through to the under-fridge area. The previous version heaters actually had the air return vented through a perforated cover. |
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chimivee
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I would recommend separating the cool air return however - this could be accomplished by adding holes to the electronics cover plate (the original return would be blocked by the door) and then venting the cubby by cutting a hole through to the under-fridge area. The previous version heaters actually had the air return vented through a perforated cover. |
Mine is one with the perforated cover (EX1800). I'll be sure to vent the space properly if I go this route. I actually have some questions about the fittings... but I'll hit you up with that if/when I finally get around to the install. Thanks!
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westyventures
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Mine is one with the perforated cover (EX1800). I'll be sure to vent the space properly if I go this route. I actually have some questions about the fittings... but I'll hit you up with that if/when I finally get around to the install. Thanks! |
I have the replacement 90-degree fittings to make it fit better, if that was going to be the question. |
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Energy Concepts
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westyventures
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2010 3:35 pm Post subject: Re: Propex Heater Wiring Circuit Board Help Needed :o) |
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Propex Heater Wiring Circuit Board Help Needed
Hi All,
Before I get too busy plugging things into the wrong place.
I thought I'd seek wisdom from the Samba 
Anyone out there know for sure
where to plug the Power and Thermostat wires into?
I couldn't see anything showing where in the installation literature.
It's probably self evident, but what do I know  
See Pic's:
Thanks,
John
PS: THIS IS THE 2800 PROPEX
It looks like #2 plug receiver is for the Thermostat
It is a 6 prong plug ( see further below)
but I dont know where the Power plug goes
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Really?  Please walk away from that heater, slowly....sit down into a chair, and read the manual supplied.  Page 5:
"The connectors on the PCB are marked CN24 (power) and CN27 (switches)". As most technical installations, the first thing one should do is read the manual. Oh - and don't shorten the pipes. |
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Energy Concepts
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Thanks Karl !!!
I never was very good at reading the instructions !!! heh heh... 
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Homercules
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I just finished my install so I'll add my input to this thread which was so helpful for me.
My photos are kinda crappy.
Sitting in the closet. The shelf just drops in now for easy servicing.
Exhaust exits fender well. Didn't get a picture of the intake. Doh! It just enters the engine bay and is routed out of the way.
TEE propane line under sink.
Cover for the intake side.
The cover was to keep any noise down but the intake screen isn't needed. Fresh air can be drawn in from inside the closet under the window. I'll be adding a shelf to cover the Propex in the closet at some point.
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climberjohn
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Here's some extra photos. |
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I just finished my install so I'll add my input to this thread which was so helpful for me.
TEE propane line under sink.
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Umm, I think Karl said that adding a T inside the van is sort of a no-no. Other that that possible transgression, nice work!
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Homercules
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Thanks
Yah, I tried to connect the line on the outside but I couldn't get a decent flare in the little bit of room I had. I only had about an inch of line to tee into due to the regulator length and the "Extend a Stay" that I added.
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westyventures
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Properly done and sealed flares are ok inside. What I don't like to see is crap work with incorrect fittings, like I have photos of work done by one certain large west-coast vendor.
Probably should tie that one line to the cabinet so that it doesn't move around though. Using a quad fitting to replace the tee at the regulator would give the extra port needed. |
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Homercules
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You guys notice everything!
Everything was secured before I reassembled
I also installed a quad fitting but I left the extra port for the second propane tank that I'm eventually adding. I was concerned about running a high pressure line from one tank to the other and decided it would probably be safer to run a low pressure line after the regulator. Or is this wrong?
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MarkWard
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I considered mounting my Espar in the rear cabinet, but was concerned about having a hole in the fenderwell above the tire for the exhaust. There is a lot of water and dirt being slung in there. How did you seal the exhaust? Did you fabricate a splash shield? In the end, mine went under the back seat.
Also with the Propex, I assume the propane is being ignited to produce the heat. Is there a seperate intake for the propex for combustion or does it use the air from inside the Van?
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Homercules
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| ...How did you seal the exhaust? Did you fabricate a splash shield? |
I sealed the exhaust on the inside of the van but have not put a splash gaurd on yet.
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| ...Also with the Propex, I assume the propane is being ignited to produce the heat. Is there a seperate intake for the propex for combustion or does it use the air from inside the Van? |
There is a separate intake. The combustion intake port comes out inside the air inlet pillar (see photo 5 first page) so you're free to route the intake hose wherever you need. I ran mine up high in the engine compartment just under the lid, sorry no picture.
There are definately some pros and cons with the rear cabinet install. But after using it a few times in cold temps I'm happy with my descision.
Pros
Fairly clean install with little impact on space
Cold air is pulled from the back (where my head is) and cycled when sleeping
You can drape a blanket from the upper bunk to close off the lower bed area and therfore use far less propane in cold temps.
Cons
More difficult to install
No heat at floor level so dosen't effectively heat the whole van
have to put a hole in the cabinet
If I think of any others I'll update this post.
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SirIvor70
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Have located mine there too and very happy with the result. Saves on the under seat storage space.
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dubbified
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After thoroughly pressurewashing, scrubbing and steam cleaning the underbody chassis... without engine/trans in the way....
I noticed how much space there is under the rear seat/transmission hump, so much I'm almost willing to cut/fabricate a small box for the propex to sit in.. a totally waterproof addition underbody.
I'm also curious if anyone has Backfed the existing air distribution system?
This would take advantage of circulation throughout the interior.
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