Just Vee Dubs / V Dubs World / Jose Ortega

[scottyhoffo]

[foreignaideinc]

Jose just came into our store to pick up a set of main bearings. His plate number is: California 1DQS118. (I can't read my own handwriting, the S might be a 5...)

I snapped a pic from my camera phone as he was walking out the door... here's his backside.

[scottyhoffo]

Awesome - well I guess that means he's not in AZ now...

Great work, foreignaide!


Anyone notice how his website goes back up but pretty much all the addresses on the different pages/sections aren't valid anymore?
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Scott Hoffman
1961 Beetle sedan
"You've been Volkswagened- passed by 40 hp!"

[ZIACOMM]

here is a picture of his car/license plate. it was at this address
4801 Ellison Ne. Ste. N
Albuquerque Nm, 87109
505-301-8334

[knoton]

These pages have been updated with contributions from members of this thread.

UPDATED urls 16Feb08

http://www.whiskersneighbour.com/PSA/JoseOrtega.html

http://www.whiskersneighbour.com/PSA/JustVeeDubs.html

http://www.whiskersneighbour.com/PSA/OnlineImportAutoParts.html

http://www.whiskersneighbour.com/PSA/VDubsWorld.html

This is ongoing, and these pages are permanent.

[CurtisS]

Thanks for keeping this site updated, knoton. One request though, can you change the text from white to black? That white on blue is hard on the eyes.

[knoton]

[knoton]

My latest communication to the theiving toit:




On 05/Sep/2006 23:56:20, xxxxxx@xxxxxx wrote:
>
>
> You owe me $796. and I demand payment.
>
> I will travel to New Mexico and beat it out of your theiving ass if I have to do that.
>
> Send payment IN FULL by CERTIFIED BANK CHEQUE to:
>
> XXXX XXXXX
> PO Box XXXXXXXXX
> XXXXXXXXXXXX, CA 96XXX
>
> I want my money and I'm going to get it from you.
>
>
>

[scottyhoffo]

Damn,

This schmuck has my car I'm sure and $10K of my money - and yes there are lots of things I'd like to do to get them both back, but... if you go out and say something like that to him directly it's not going to do anything but p!$$ him off to make him want to get the authorities on you because you threatened him. He'd do something like that too - that's his "way". One guy I've been speaking with who's had the same problems with him got an email from him saying that he was filing charges against him for "...slander and harassment" or something like that. ...because he sent him an email message every day. Hollow threats I'm certain but you can never tell.

Yes that sounds very "New American" but should Vinnie and Tony happen to pay him a visit with their good friend Mr. Crowbar, and you happened to say that you wanted to beat something out of him...

Just a thought.

That, and I'm sure he's probably insolvent anyway. We'll see.

Good luck - keep us posted!
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Scott Hoffman
1961 Beetle sedan
"You've been Volkswagened- passed by 40 hp!"

[knoton]

I'm not going to mince any words. He doesn't play by the rules. I will beat the goddamned hell out of him if I have to do so. One way or another, he's going to repay the funds he has stolen from me. It's his choice as to whether he pays me before I break his theiving ass up into a heap. But, he's going to pay.

I will not cower to threats about slander or harrassment. If he thinks he's got what it takes to pull off a legal maneuver such as that, he needs to get on with it. I welcome it. I've legally shredded assholes like him in the legal system before, both personally and as a union activist. He's fucked with the wrong person this time and he's going pay the consequences. If he chooses, it will include some broken bones and a bloody, pulpy mess. It's his choice. I will not budge a millimeter. He's a chronic, serial predator with at least 3 decades of history. Now, he's going to experience some pain.

[scottyhoffo]

Well let us know how it turns out should you go out there.

I'm going to email him at every address he has and call him at both of those New Mexico phone numbers one time - one last chance for him to contact me (and I'm pretty sure he won't) and explain to me why he's dodging everyone like Slick Willie and how he's going to return my car finished or not- and then it's on.

One of my favorite movie quotes pretty much says it all:
...Jack Nicholson from "A Few Good Men"

"You have f***ed with the wrong Marine!"
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Scott Hoffman
1961 Beetle sedan
"You've been Volkswagened- passed by 40 hp!"

[scottyhoffo]

This is what I'd emailed Jose this morning. Is this clear enough?

->sent 12:19pm Saturday, 9 September 2006

Well Jose, I see you've moved once again - and again, without contacting me
to inform me of such an action.

You moved from CA to AZ without letting me know. Now my car is no longer
located at your place of business in AZ - and this is coming from a VERY
reliable source (the Camp Verde, Arizona local authorities). Again, you've
neglected to inform me of such a move.

I told you once that I no longer wanted you working on my car, that I wanted
it set aside with every part given to you as well - and ready to send back.
You ignored me - in fact, you have once again moved to another state.


I demand that wherever you have *thoughtfully* relocated my car that it
finds its way onto a truck and makes it back to California. I am not going
to pay you to move it - you're going to do it. Why? Because you have done
all of this without my permission and with ill intent. How else do you
explain a lack of current information on your website - moving to a
different address and not keeping your customers informed as to why. You
claim to be a business yet keeping your customers satisfied and informed is
nowhere on your list of priorities.
Every address on your website is either outdated or bogus.
Every phone number has been disconnected.
You advertise a California Bureau of Automotive Repair license number on
your HOME PAGE but it's listed as not only DELINQUENT but it's your old
address!
The address at which you're currently doing business isn't listed on your
website at all.

I've done my homework - every business you've "owned" or been involved with
seems to have a habit of bad customer relations or litigation/charges filed
against them.
Tax liens... Small claims court... Fraud... Labor issues... Lack of
quality... Unresponsiveness... Lack of communication with even the BBB...

Does any of this sound "fishy" to you? By the phrase "unwanted e mails" you
have listed on your contact page, I am presuming you mean "e-mail from
customers you've screwed over and don't want to deal with".



I don't care what other irons you have in the fire, how busy you are, or
what sort of dilemmas/crises you face. You're going to get everything that
belongs to me sent to me. You're going to take care of this situation and do
it with a smile on your face. You're going deal with me and meet every
demand of mine. THIS just became your new priority. Is that clear?

Let me say this so you have no misunderstanding - you know, so it's
perfectly clear what you are going to do to remedy this situation.

I DEMAND that you IMMEDIATELY return my car and any part or property thereof
I've given you (to include that 1200cc 40hp engine), REGARDLESS of its
state. You WILL ship it to California to me. I will NOT pay for shipping
costs because I have NEVER given you authorization to relocate it. There is
no grace period. There is no compromise.

I have tried time and again to be cordial and of good spirits, but every
time I have it's been for naught. This time is it - one last time.

You have this ONE LAST TIME to get my property returned to me.


Scott Hoffman
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Scott Hoffman
1961 Beetle sedan
"You've been Volkswagened- passed by 40 hp!"

[Randy in Maine]

Send a copy to the Consumer Fraud Division at the Office of the Attorney General.

[clearsurf2001]

Several suggestions on a course of action have come up in this thread. Earlier this year ... Scotty and I exchanged several PM's on this subject. Check the following ...

http://www.ricoact.com/ricoact/nutshell.asp


In 1970, Congress passed the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act, Title 18, United States Code, Sections 1961-1968. At the time, Congress' goal was to eliminate the ill-affects of organized crime on the nation's economy. To put it bluntly, RICO was intended to destroy the Mafia.

Throughout the 1970's, RICO's intended purpose and its actual use ran parallel to each other. Seldom was RICO used outside of the context of the Mafia, and it is not an overstatement to say that civil claims under RICO were simply not brought.

In the 1980's, however, civil lawyers noticed section 1964(c) of the RICO Act, which allows civil claims to be brought by any person injured in their business or property by reason of a RICO violation. Any person who succeeded in establishing a civil RICO claim would automatically receive judgment in the amount of three times their actual damages and would be awarded their costs and attorneys' fees. The financial windfall available under RICO inspired the creativity of lawyers across the nation, and by the late 1980's, RICO was a (if not the most) commonly asserted claim in federal court. Everyone was trying to depict civil claims, such as common law fraud, product defect, and breach of contract as criminal wrongdoing, which would in turn enable the filing of a civil RICO action.

Jose's methods and practices seem to qualify as an "ongoing criminal enterprise" ... you folks might want to persue him via this vein. The only problem ... he probably doesn't have very much to go after.
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Get ready for the injection

[scottyhoffo]

I just forwarded the AZ Attorney General that email I'd sent as well as ask them if they have any further information.

Thank you! I'll keep y'all posted when I get any more info.
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Scott Hoffman
1961 Beetle sedan
"You've been Volkswagened- passed by 40 hp!"

[luckystiff]

scotty,
i hate to put it to you like this but, STOP WAITING FOR HIM TO DO THE RIGHT THING!!!!!!!! he's not gonna do it. end of story. find someone local to albq to find WHERE your car is. get it out of there if it is there. it may be gone already. you should have gotten it back months ago. you found him back in may or so i belive. that been 3-4 MONTHS. if a person like this doesn't respond within 30 days with all the pressure you had put to him fuck it. go get the car. having it back unfinished would be better than never seeing it again right. let the local pd where he is at all times know the situation. if it's a working case it's real easy to get one or more officers to escort you to retrieve your property. let getting your car back be priority 1. if you have to drop what your doing and drive out yourself so be it. keep your cool. at this point getting a half done car back and being out the $ is better than being out the $ AND having no car at all.

if it was documented that he was in possesion of your car in az you need to find out what criminal charges THEY can hit him with for loading it and moving it to YET ANOTHER state.

for all the folks who are threatening to beat his ass,
an asswhipping really won't stay with you that long unless you do something drastic to him. severing a few years in the pen where he gets his ass beat/fucked daily WILL. with a scumbag like this legal action is the way. well ok there are other ways but you'd be running the risk of pen time yourself if you incorporate those ways. a piece of shit like that isn't worth that. well unless you know someone in "the business". the you're gonna lose more money to teach him a lesson...ken....

[scottyhoffo]

No, I completely feel that way - it's time. This week I'll be busy with a big inspection at work but tomorrow I'll find out from their authorities what the deal is. If he won't come through then I'm on my way to New Mexico with a trailer and some friends. Most certainly the law will be with me.

Charges are in the works.

You are right - it's better to have a car which needs work than no car at all. Besides, I'm sure I'll have to have that engine he's supposedly built gone through again anyway. From everything I've heard of his engines it won't last two minutes. (if all the parts are there to begin with)
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Scott Hoffman
1961 Beetle sedan
"You've been Volkswagened- passed by 40 hp!"

[luckystiff]

yeah man from what i've seen there is a pretty decent air cooled community in albq(my '63 came out of Rio Rancho last year about this time). it should be that hard to track him/your car down. it's beyond apparent that guy isn't gonna follow through with any part of you getting your car much less getting it right. i hate to say it but i'd bet the whole thing is of sub-par workmanship.

it seems with the vw community expanding as it is theres more and more of these guys piling in to take advantage of people. 15 years ago he wouldn't have lasted long enough to take advantage of this many people. it's a sad thing.

good luck man. i'll give the guy i bought my '63 from an email with the info on your car. rio rancho is close by and if the guy is pedeling parts off or your whole car he'll probably hear about it...ken....

[knoton]

[scottyhoffo]

Thanks Ken - I appreciate it.

Nothing from Jose - boy am I surprised. The detective with whom I have been dealing wasn't available today to find out that info - but tomorrow I'll call him again. My friend and I are already making plans to head out that way. Transportation is already pretty much set - just need to locate the car.

Quality? The pictures are really crummy so it's hard to tell - but yeah I'd have to probably agree with you at least in the engine department. He supposedly rebuilt the tranny too which means it MAY have a reverse gear...

Damn knoton yeah pro active yes but not so much to the Josef Mengele extent... Action yes.
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Scott Hoffman
1961 Beetle sedan
"You've been Volkswagened- passed by 40 hp!"