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Douglas Denlinger Samba Member

Joined: May 23, 2003 Posts: 1354 Location: Arizona's version of the east coast
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: LOWLIGHT FLOOR MATS... THE SOLUTION! |
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I'm restoring a 58 cab for a customer and friend that is as picky as I am when it comes to details....so as this restoration progresses we have decided that we may make an effort to reproduce the tunnel/floor/wall mats. My friend lives in Detroit, he has many connections with the automakers, so it maybe a possibility.
The only problem we don't have anything to work from. So, we are asking for a mostly complete sample. It can be in 100 pieces, as long as it's taped together.
I can't promise this WILL happen, but we are willing to shop it around.
Anyone interested? Thanks for looking,
Douglas _________________ Transporter Restorations
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lemke Samba Troll

Joined: February 24, 2004 Posts: 1249 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Douglas, Its always great to have creative folks looking into making good repops for Ghias, and other cars. Perhaps you may have not looked into the availability of Ghia floor mats in this case, though. I have been making reproductions for all years of Ghia for close to ten years. Click "Ghia Mats" below to see my ad.
John |
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Douglas Denlinger Samba Member

Joined: May 23, 2003 Posts: 1354 Location: Arizona's version of the east coast
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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John,
I know you reproduce the flat floor mats. We are looking to reproduce the early lowlight convertible front inner fender well/bulkhead/tunnel mats.
I have seen your mats in a friends (Hans C.) car....they are nicely done. We have no plans to reproduce something already done. We have plans to use your floor mats in conjuction with whatever we are able to produce. If we can't get these mats made we will still use your floor mats with carpet.
Thanks,
Douglas _________________ Transporter Restorations
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lemke Samba Troll

Joined: February 24, 2004 Posts: 1249 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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23 window collection wrote: |
John,
I know you reproduce the flat floor mats. We are looking to reproduce the early lowlight convertible front inner fender well/bulkhead/tunnel mats.
I have seen your mats in a friends (Hans C.) car....they are nicely done. We have no plans to reproduce something already done. We have plans to use your floor mats in conjuction with whatever we are able to produce. If we can't get these mats made we will still use your floor mats with carpet.
Thanks,
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That sounds like a great idea. It would be very cool to see 50's Ghia interiors restored the original look. Let me know if I can be of help. |
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udo dreisoerner Samba Member

Joined: February 13, 2005 Posts: 1123 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:18 am Post subject: Trimming Frontpanel Rubber , from bodynumber 3761 |
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Hallo Douglas.
i own an old trimming-frontpanel rubber with the partnumber 141863021. My rubber is put out an 1956 lowlight ghia from my bestr friend wolfram, who sell the car to spain. now, i own the rubber, but it likes an nightmare. if you want i send you pics and we have contact for reproduce them. i think john lemke can reproduce them. i have no problem to sell the rubber to usa and recieve an repromat. a lot of lowlighter seeks this mats.
mail me, regards, udo
p.s.: the mat frame tunnel is available. i bought a good repro from an beetle part-dealer
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RockStock Samba Member

Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3770 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:01 am Post subject: |
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udo, good lad
hope you pull this one off, doug
bulkhead mats
what are the differences with 56/57/58/59 bulkhead mats?
my understanding is that the 57s/58s/59s are the same, full rubber matting
but the 56s - didnt they include a piece of carpet down low, covering the sill area/heat outlet section etc?
can we get some pictures posted up, showing all the different bulkhead mat details, help dougie out?
personally, i think the '57 & 58 & 59' bulkhead mat is the one to reproduce
it came in several different colours, at least:
'Grey' mats: Toucan Black Coupe, Cognac Coupe, Cardinal Red Coupe, Dolphin Blue Coupe
'Beige' mats: Brilliant Red Coupe, Graphite Silver Cab
'Blue' mats: Bernina Cab tbc
'Green' mats: Aero Silver Coupe, Bambus Coupe
(PS is 'Bodenbelag' german for mats?)
maybe best to produce it in the grey or beige, then let owners paint them appropriately
sill/rocker mats
the sill mats would be simple, IMO _________________ -StockRocks-
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RockStock Samba Member

Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3770 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:16 am Post subject: |
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cool mats in a cool '58' coupe owned by an even cooler guy!!
lars' 57(?) Black Coupe
(lets just not start the year thing again eh?!) _________________ -StockRocks- |
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RockStock Samba Member

Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3770 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:23 am Post subject: |
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56 Ghia Bulkhead Area
paul mansfield's UK Black 56 with replica interior
(i got the carpet/rubber the wrong way round?)
not sure how accurate this is?
ie should the tunnel area & sill area be carpet on a 56?
jeff, maybe you have a better pic/accurate details for 56s? _________________ -StockRocks- |
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Douglas Denlinger Samba Member

Joined: May 23, 2003 Posts: 1354 Location: Arizona's version of the east coast
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:52 am Post subject: |
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Udo,
Thanks for the offer....we however, are committed only to the convertible mats at this time.
Rockstock, thanks for the pictures....some of which you have already sent me via pmail.
It would be GREAT to get as many pictures as possible, but we really need a template, ie. an original mat to make this happen. Like I said it can be in 100 pieces as long as it's taped together.
Douglas _________________ Transporter Restorations
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Gary Person of Interest
Joined: November 01, 2002 Posts: 17069 Location: 127.0.0.1
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 7:54 am Post subject: |
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RockStock wrote: |
udo, good lad
hope you pull this one off, doug
bulkhead mats
what are the differences with 56/57/58/59 bulkhead mats?
*snip* |
You didn't mention 55 mats  _________________ West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943) |
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udo dreisoerner Samba Member

Joined: February 13, 2005 Posts: 1123 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:25 am Post subject: bulkhead mats |
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hi at all.
what are "bulkhead mats "
please let me know.
for all others:
i reproduce the flat plexis for licence house lighting part no 141943121. i hope that the parts will be ready in march.
second part i reproduce are the "retaining strip- weatherstrip, window-slot, outer". part no. 141837483. hope that the parts will be ready in march, too |
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RockStock Samba Member

Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3770 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:12 am Post subject: |
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23 window collection wrote: |
we however, are committed only to the convertible mats at this time. |
dougie - all mats are the same, Coupe or Cab
udo - the bulkhead mat - the vertical mat section all around the front, behind the pedals, around the heater tubes left & right, around the dipswitch, around the heater outlets etc etc etc etc - all one piece - is this not the section you have??? _________________ -StockRocks- |
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RockStock Samba Member

Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3770 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Icy wrote: |
RockStock wrote: |
udo, good lad
hope you pull this one off, doug
bulkhead mats
what are the differences with 56/57/58/59 bulkhead mats?
*snip* |
You didn't mention 55 mats  |
just leave it, gary!  _________________ -StockRocks- |
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Douglas Denlinger Samba Member

Joined: May 23, 2003 Posts: 1354 Location: Arizona's version of the east coast
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:22 am Post subject: |
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Rockstock,
So your saying that Udos example would be a sample/template we could use for a 57-59 or since it's from a 56 we are SOL?
Plus I though in your lowlight class 101 cabs only had the mats from the front seats forward, not coups. Maybe I miss read the instructions that day
Douglas _________________ Transporter Restorations
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Gary Person of Interest
Joined: November 01, 2002 Posts: 17069 Location: 127.0.0.1
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:31 am Post subject: |
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RockStock wrote: |
Icy wrote: |
RockStock wrote: |
udo, good lad
hope you pull this one off, doug
bulkhead mats
what are the differences with 56/57/58/59 bulkhead mats?
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You didn't mention 55 mats  |
just leave it, gary!  |
Just lightening the mood. _________________ West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943) |
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RockStock Samba Member

Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3770 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:50 am Post subject: |
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23 window collection wrote: |
Rockstock,
So your saying that Udos example would be a sample/template we could use for a 57-59 or since it's from a 56 we are SOL?
Plus I though in your lowlight class 101 cabs only had the mats from the front seats forward, not coups. Maybe I miss read the instructions that day
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udo needs to clarify what mat he has
coupes and cabs (57/58/59), the same, all rubber mat forward of the rear seat cross brace
2 x sill/rocker sections (repros not available)
1 x tunnel mat (ie see WW, decent repro)
1 x bulkhead (repros not available)
4 x floor sections (2 front, 2 rear/ Lemke repros)
56s need a little clarifying
55s? there are no 55s JOKING _________________ -StockRocks- |
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Broadacus Samba Member
Joined: January 25, 2003 Posts: 535 Location: Manchester. ENGLAND, UK
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:18 am Post subject: Rubber Mats |
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Great news for all Lowlight owners somebody is going to reproduce the bulkhead mats. I have just checked my Attention All Service Stations Brochure and I am pleased to say Paul Mansfield's reproduction as shown by Mr Rockstock ( above) is correct.
Nice to see Mr Rockstock has used a good example of Lowlight original mats ( oh did I say that)  _________________ 1957 Rometsch Beeskow
1963 Karmann Ghia Convertible RHD
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Jonas Burman2 Samba Member
Joined: February 27, 2004 Posts: 41
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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I might have what you are looking for. Itīs in pieces but itīs all there.
Have had plans to make a repop myself but ...you know....time!!?
I planned to make an "open" mold and make it from there. Well that is what I figured out laying there awake at nights trying to solve the lowlight bulkhead problem.
I wonder how they were made in the firts place. They definitly seem much more fragile than the floormats
What is your plan?
Colors?... They came in different colors. |
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RockStock Samba Member

Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3770 Location: England
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: Lowlight floor mats....possible reproduction source |
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slow down there, broady
just two things:
23 window collection wrote: |
The only problem we don't have anything to work from
I can't promise this WILL happen, but we are willing to shop it around |
oh, & the bulkhead mat is a complicated mat, large & 3d, & one that dougie perhaps has not seen b4... _________________ -StockRocks- |
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RockStock Samba Member

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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject: eat your heart out OGR |
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RockStock wrote: |
is 'Bodenbelag' german for mats? |
yes, RockStock, 'Floor covering'
- and 'Teppichstoff' is carpet material _________________ -StockRocks- |
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