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SiggyManx#33 Samba Member
Joined: June 13, 2005 Posts: 877 Location: Southeast PA
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:25 am Post subject: |
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offer+acceptance=binding deal (in most states)
You should not of relisted them for a higher price until everyone else backed out.
Doing so can make you look bad. (even if you aren't.) |
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dr. awsome Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2005 Posts: 1298
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:13 am Post subject: |
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I edited the price just incase everyone that was already in line dropped out for some reason. I had no intetioins of trying to get the people who had e-mailed me about them when the price was listed as 125 to get them to pay 200. I guess I got gready hoping that if everyone backed out I could find someone who didn't see the original listing and get a little more. But in no way shape or form was I going to try to get anyone that contacted me before I raised the advertised price to try to get them to pay the 200 instead of the original 125. _________________ is it time to get out of the dirt and switch to the street? |
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UncleBob Grease Midget
Joined: August 21, 2002 Posts: 2862 Location: Northeast Florida
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 11:06 am Post subject: |
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dr. awsome wrote: |
I didn't rais the price to anyone who had e-mailed me before I raised the price. The people who had e-mail be still had the offer for 125. I honestly had no idea what the are worth. All I know is I picked them up a year ago at a swap meet for a good deal and was tired of having them around and needed some cash. I would have only made jsbptown pay the original 125. |
Oh, so you sold them to someone else for $125, and it was a simple mixup in order?
If you already had a buyer (Jeff) for $125, then why would you go through the trouble of editing the Manx Club ad for $200? _________________ OG JHC
don't worry, the ciggaret is fake. |
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jspbtown Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 5157
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:59 am Post subject: |
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I realize accidents happen, but I worked pretty hard walking that line between being a pain in the ass, and falling off the face of the earth. I didn't email you right on Wednesday thinking you wanted to give the other guy the whole day, and I waited for you on thursday during the day for you to get back to me (again so I wouldn't be perceived as a pain). When you didn't I sent that last email on thursday night.
I guess I am angry as well because another set came up on the Samba for $150 (but included new aircleaners) and I passed them up because I didn't want to play two people. Obviously those are now gone as well.
Its more than frustrating doing everything right just to get screwed.
And lastly...I didn't make you look like an ass. |
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Gary Person of Interest
Joined: November 01, 2002 Posts: 17069 Location: 127.0.0.1
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:53 am Post subject: |
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dr. awsome wrote: |
I didn't rais the price to anyone who had e-mailed me before I raised the price. The people who had e-mail be still had the offer for 125. I honestly had no idea what the are worth. All I know is I picked them up a year ago at a swap meet for a good deal and was tired of having them around and needed some cash. I would have only made jsbptown pay the original 125. |
OK, that's cool. At least you honored your previous price. _________________ West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943) |
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dr. awsome Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2005 Posts: 1298
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:49 am Post subject: |
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I didn't rais the price to anyone who had e-mailed me before I raised the price. The people who had e-mail be still had the offer for 125. I honestly had no idea what the are worth. All I know is I picked them up a year ago at a swap meet for a good deal and was tired of having them around and needed some cash. I would have only made jsbptown pay the original 125. _________________ is it time to get out of the dirt and switch to the street? |
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Gary Person of Interest
Joined: November 01, 2002 Posts: 17069 Location: 127.0.0.1
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:46 am Post subject: |
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UncleBob wrote: |
That's understandable. Accidents happen, it's tough sometimes to keep pecking orders in line. But, this is what I don't get.
dr. awsome wrote: |
I raised the price to 200 because of the amount of interest and figured I had them priced very low. |
If you put something up for sale, you've already figured out in your head what you want for them. If you agree to sell for that price, you need to follow through. I completely understand trying to get the most $ out of your parts, but this isn't E-Bay. You shouldn't adjust your price structure based on interest.
After all, put yourself in Jeffs shoes. How would you feel? |
Exactly. That's called Bait-and-Switch. You priced it, you eat it. _________________ West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943) |
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UncleBob Grease Midget
Joined: August 21, 2002 Posts: 2862 Location: Northeast Florida
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:41 am Post subject: |
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That's understandable. Accidents happen, it's tough sometimes to keep pecking orders in line. But, this is what I don't get.
dr. awsome wrote: |
I raised the price to 200 because of the amount of interest and figured I had them priced very low. |
If you put something up for sale, you've already figured out in your head what you want for them. If you agree to sell for that price, you need to follow through. I completely understand trying to get the most $ out of your parts, but this isn't E-Bay. You shouldn't adjust your price structure based on interest.
After all, put yourself in Jeffs shoes. How would you feel? _________________ OG JHC
don't worry, the ciggaret is fake. |
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dr. awsome Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2005 Posts: 1298
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 10:31 am Post subject: |
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Here’s the deal. I posted them for 125 and with in 20 minutes a guy from Thailand e-mailed me and said he wanted them. The next morning I had 3 other e-mails from various people saying they want them ASAP as well. I tried to make a pecking order the best I could. I raised the price to 200 because of the amount of interest and figured I had them priced very low. I was also hoping that if the 4 people that e-mailed me all backed out for some reason I would be able to get a little more but I never raised the price for who had already e-mailed me before the price jump. Apparently I stated that jsbptown was next in line. The guy from Thailand dropped off the face of the earth and wouldn't respond to my e-mails at all. So I set a time limit and told him if he didn't respond I would then move to the next person. When he didn't respond I then moved to who I thought was the next person by who e-mailed me first. It was had to tell who was first at this time because g-mail only lists the day the e-mail was sent not the time. I sent a reply to the person I thought was next and apparently got the order wrong. I've already sent an E-mail apologizing to jsbptown. If I didn't already have the money in my back account I would tell the other guy I made a mistake and sell them to you but it’s not quite that simple is it. I really don't know what you want me to do! I understand that your upset because you lost out on a great deal because I messed up but is that really a reason to try to completely destroy a guys reputation? I don't sell thing very often and when I do apparently I'm not very good at it. also after I raised the price from 125 to 200 no one contacted me. There was not someone who was willing to pay more for them. I was only trying to get the most I could out of them but sill trying to be fair at the same time to who ever had already contacted me. But I guess I couldn't even to that right. Once again I apologies. _________________ is it time to get out of the dirt and switch to the street?
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jspbtown Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 5157
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Those are the ones. You can see my original response on the Manx site at the bottom. |
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UncleBob Grease Midget
Joined: August 21, 2002 Posts: 2862 Location: Northeast Florida
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jspbtown Samba Member
Joined: January 27, 2004 Posts: 5157
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:13 am Post subject: [email protected] does bad business...... |
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Here is the deal. Trent ([email protected]) lists a set of kadrons for $120.00 both here and on the on February 1, 2006. On February 2, 2006 I send him an email saying that I would take them, and for him to give me a shipping cost and how he wants to get paid. This is the email he sends me:
From: Trent Bowman
To: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: A message about your ad on
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 07:33:09 -0800
Shipping would be around $20. I prefer payment through paypal, But will take a money order or cashiers check as well. There is someone in Thailand that is also interested and he contacted me last night so he is first in line. you are next in line so if he backs out they are yours if you would still like them.
Thanks
Trent
Ok...so I am second in line. I send him this message the same day:
From: JSPBTOWN
To: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: A message about your ad on
Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:13:32 -0500
Trent,
Yes Trent I am very interested. $20 for shipping is fine with me. Paypal is also fine. Let me know what happens if you would. My Manx would be very happy to have them.
Jeff
So then I get this email from Trent:
From: Trent Bowman
To: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: A message about your ad on
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:47:56 -0800
I'll let you know as soon as I find out if this guy in thailand wants them still with how much shipping will be.
Thanks
Trent
Still cool. I will wait. On Saturday I shoot him a quick message:
From: JSPBTOWN
To: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: A message about your ad on
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 3:52:08 PM Eastern Standard Time
Trent,
Any word from the guy in Thailand?
Thanks
Jeff
I get a response from him on Sunday:
From: Trent Bowman
To: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: A message about your ad on
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2006 22:34:44 -0800
He want them still but I havn't gotten any money yet. I'll give him till wednesday and then I'll give you a buzz with an update. How's that sound?
Trent
No problem. I shoot him this response:
From: JSPBTOWN
To: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: A message about your ad on
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 2:40:14 PM Eastern Standard Time
More than fair. Thanks.
Jeff
So since I don't hear from him I shoot him a message on thursday as he was giving the other guy until Wednesday:
From: JSPBTOWN
To: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: A message about your ad on
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 8:01:21 PM Eastern Standard Time
Trent,
Any word?
Thanks
Jeff
And this is what I get late thursday night:
From: Trent Bowman
To: [email protected]
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Subject: Re: A message about your ad on
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 17:08:34 -0800
The guy in Thailand lost touch so I went to the next guy this morning and he has already sent me the money. So they are sold. Sorry.
Trent
Hows that for business!! I was the next guy. I kept in touch without harassing him. I told him I would take them. Now one little interesting detail to this. He originally posted them for $120.00...both here and at the Meyers Manx forum. AFTER I contacted him, and AFTER he responded to my inquiry saying they were mine he bumped the price to $200, with the caveat that "if you haven't already contacted me". My guess....he found someone to pay $200. He has pulled the ad here so I can't post the link to it, unless someone can tell me if there is a record somewhere. So if you bought these carbs let me know if you paid $200. Either way...thats just lousy business. |
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