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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:45 am    Post subject: The Ultimate 23 Window Restoration? Reply with quote

I was actually going to cut up the 58?? and graft the panels onto a 15 window fleetline, however I've decided that I'm at least going to try and salvage this once cool bus. Stay Tuned for more in March, when I'm home from the states.

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If there's any tips or advice you can give me or if you've done anything similar, feel free to drop me a line at [email protected] as I'm open to any ideas, if you want to just say "scrap it", then skip the email and tell it to yourself in the mirror in the morning.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That shit will buff out.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, you won't believe this, but I'm being told by a lot of people to restore the 50's bus.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say that's a wee bit optimistic, that bus is in a sorry state. I don't even think it's worth your while saving the roof windows, they look pretty shot, and there's companies making repros now if you really want to go that route. Imho that deluxe is long gone, plus it has been vultured, so all the expensive bits are missing. And you paid money for this?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yup, the thing is I'm from South Africa and there are no 23 window busses around. zip zero, buying parts from overseas is impossible so I have to make do with what I have.

I have 2 boxes with stuff in as well, bumpers, trim, glass, sunroof section etc etc.

Yup I paid money for it. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also is it me or does this 23 have semaphores on the B-pillars in the last picture???


Jep those are semaphore holes
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so what year would this samba be anyway........?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think judging by the holes for the rear lights 1958 and up.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so my original guess at 1958 was about right..?

Thanks a lot.

I'm still in two minds about what to do with it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

semaphores, rhd, euro tail lights no barndoor I would say 1955 - 1957

edit or to what year dit the euro tail lights changed to big ones
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

didn't expect it to be older than a 1958. Research time.

Thanks. Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

shit, put a motor in it and drive it, LOL
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tanhis wrote:
semaphores, rhd, euro tail lights no barndoor I would say 1955 - 1957


Europe used the sema`s till 1 june 1960 and the rear corners stopped in august 1963.

When i look good to the photgraph ,i see two hole`s for rear lights.
flatfourfan , can you confirm this or isn`t the bus at home?

What kind of bumpers do you have ,and what shape is the decklid and can you say that its the original one?

The integral reflector rear lights stopped in may 1958 ,so does the brake light in the decklid.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VolksWouteŽ wrote:
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semaphores, rhd, euro tail lights no barndoor I would say 1955 - 1957


Europe used the sema`s till 1 june 1960 and the rear corners stopped in august 1963.

When i look good to the photgraph ,i see two hole`s for rear lights.
flatfourfan , can you confirm this or isn`t the bus at home?

What kind of bumpers do you have ,and what shape is the decklid and can you say that its the original one?

The integral reflector rear lights stopped in may 1958 ,so does the brake light in the decklid.


The bus is currently sitting at a friends house, but when I last saw it, I can confirm that it does indeed have two sets of holes out back and both seem to be stock with the top ones being filled sometime along the line.

I have a small pic of one of the bumpers that I've attached. Sorry about the size. Can you make anything out?

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The decklid is inside, I'd have to check over Saterday.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bumper on the pic looks like a ribbed bumper, when it`s the original one you`ll find a decklid with brakelight.
Look at the cargo doors ,they must be flat in the door handle area.

When you go to the bus ,check the engine compartment . On the drivers side for a RHD ,next to the battery tray you`ll find the chassisnumber.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, it's a ribbed bumper. I'll check this weekend and snap some better pictures.

Thanks Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you take that on as a resto, you deserve major applause. I'd love to watch that progress.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or a slap around the ear-hole. Laughing

I've decided to take it on, I can't justify chopping up a early 23 window unless I've actually tried to straighten it out first. In the words of John Jones, "anything I do to this will only be an improvement"

First thing is to see if the side can be straightened out, I have an appointment with a local wrecker in March who says he'll go at it with Hydraulic Jacks to see how much he can pull out, (he's very optimistic and said I'd be surprised at what they can do), at that stage, I'll decide if I'm going to go on or not.

Gotta at least try save it.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wooooooooo Hooooooooo go for it. Keep us posted.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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