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FL-Frank
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 Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: Shift rod bushing - how to? |
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| SBD wrote: |
| The parts should be available from just about ANY aftermarket supplier of air cooled VW parts. Just guessing, CIP1, JBugs, Mid-America Motorworks, AirCooled.net, CBPerformance, to name a few. |
Thanks, however, many have made negative comments regarding the quality of the aftermarket parts...especially the bushing.
I’m Looking for the best quality out there.
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TheRide
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Airstream65
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| Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: Shift rod bushing - how to? |
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| I replaced the bushing in my 67 about 3 weeks ago, took about an hour! The trick that I used is getting some long pliers that look like needle nose, but the end has about a 45 degree bend. No string necessary! I was really dreading this, but mine was relatively simple, don't forget to purchase a new coupler while you're at it! |
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SBD
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| Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: Shift rod bushing - how to? |
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| FL-Frank wrote: |
Thanks, however, many have made negative comments regarding the quality of the aftermarket parts...especially the bushing.
I’m Looking for the best quality out there. |
A while back I saw where one of the companies listed a cheaper shift rod bushing and a more expensive one that it said was 'OE German quality' or something like that. Can't remember who it was right off.  There's a metal one available in the classifieds. 
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1740498
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| I wouldent waste $ or thyme on building a small motor. build it big so it dosent have to work hard.remember it's only as fast as your foot alows it to be unless you build a small turd then it just stinks as it squishes up through your toes when you step on it. |
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TheRide
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| Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:57 pm Post subject: Re: Shift rod bushing - how to? |
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| FL-Frank wrote: |
A while back I saw where one of the companies listed a cheaper shift rod bushing and a more expensive one that it said was 'OE German quality' or something like that. |
Bug City, but they're out of stock  |
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SBD
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| Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: Shift rod bushing - how to? |
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Cip1 says they have them.
https://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C24%2D111%2D701%2D259%2DASET
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| I wouldent waste $ or thyme on building a small motor. build it big so it dosent have to work hard.remember it's only as fast as your foot alows it to be unless you build a small turd then it just stinks as it squishes up through your toes when you step on it. |
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FL-Frank
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| Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Shift rod bushing - how to? |
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In preparation for replacing the bushing in my Beetle, this morning I made a shift rod “Extraction/Insertion Tool” as described earlier in this thread. It’s 1” ID PVC pipe with an overall length of 5’
The plan I copied...
And my finished product ready to go...
I’m eager to try it out!
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TheRide
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| Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 2:00 pm Post subject: Re: Shift rod bushing - how to? |
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Experienced guys will know to do this, the inexperienced will not.
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corro23
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| Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 9:58 am Post subject: Re: Shift rod bushing - how to? |
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Great thread ... Thanks to everyone who contributed. We put in a new bushing a coupler this last weekend. Everything went pretty smooth!
Next time I will make that PVC tool. It looks like it would be a huge help! |
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67 Florida Deluxe
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| Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Shift rod bushing - how to? |
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Great thread ... Thanks to everyone who contributed. We put in a new bushing a coupler this last weekend. Everything went pretty smooth!
Next time I will make that PVC tool. It looks like it would be a huge help! |
While that PVC tool is handy, the MOST important thing (aside from marking the shifter base to the tunnel mount - I used White-out) is tying twine to the shift rod through the under-seat access before you withdraw it from the car. Then you have a "come-along" to guide it through the tunnel and not get hung up on the stuff in the tunnel. I did this by myself and while it was a longer process than having a buddy pushing in the rod as you pull the twine, it worked. I just used a broom handle to shove it in once it got past the access hole in the front. But either way, the twine is critical.
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| Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 7:30 pm Post subject: Re: Shift rod bushing - how to? |
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| 67 Florida Deluxe wrote: |
| corro23 wrote: |
Great thread ... Thanks to everyone who contributed. We put in a new bushing a coupler this last weekend. Everything went pretty smooth!
Next time I will make that PVC tool. It looks like it would be a huge help! |
While that PVC tool is handy, the MOST important thing (aside from marking the shifter base to the tunnel mount - I used White-out) is tying twine to the shift rod through the under-seat access before you withdraw it from the car. Then you have a "come-along" to guide it through the tunnel and not get hung up on the stuff in the tunnel. I did this by myself and while it was a longer process than having a buddy pushing in the rod as you pull the twine, it worked. I just used a broom handle to shove it in once it got past the access hole in the front. But either way, the twine is critical. |
To add to this, the other CRITICAL thing is to source and purchase the highest quality plastic bushing you can find. I bought one that I "thought" was good quality. It lasted a month. I then got to do this all over again but this time I had sourced NOS German bushings. Years later, all is still good.
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67 Florida Deluxe
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| Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2020 8:04 pm Post subject: Re: Shift rod bushing - how to? |
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| 67 Florida Deluxe wrote: |
| corro23 wrote: |
Great thread ... Thanks to everyone who contributed. We put in a new bushing a coupler this last weekend. Everything went pretty smooth!
Next time I will make that PVC tool. It looks like it would be a huge help! |
While that PVC tool is handy, the MOST important thing (aside from marking the shifter base to the tunnel mount - I used White-out) is tying twine to the shift rod through the under-seat access before you withdraw it from the car. Then you have a "come-along" to guide it through the tunnel and not get hung up on the stuff in the tunnel. I did this by myself and while it was a longer process than having a buddy pushing in the rod as you pull the twine, it worked. I just used a broom handle to shove it in once it got past the access hole in the front. But either way, the twine is critical. |
To add to this, the other CRITICAL thing is to source and purchase the highest quality plastic bushing you can find. I bought one that I "thought" was good quality. It lasted a month. I then got to do this all over again but this time I had sourced NOS German bushings. Years later, all is still good. |
Absolutely! I got the parts for two different cars (65 and 67) many years ago (when I started this thread in 2006) from Wolfsburg West and they're still going strong. Using a good grease is important, too 
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Cusser
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| Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:45 am Post subject: Re: Shift rod bushing - how to? |
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I didn't use the twine trick when I replaced the shift bushing on my 1970, but think that's a good idea. I used the PVC pipe tool.
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theduck
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| Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:11 pm Post subject: Re: Shift rod bushing - how to? |
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 Hello all.Well my 67 type 1, has a cracked shift bushing holder.So I was able to move the shift rod forward up to the bumper.So then I was able to drill out old welds.And then proceed to cut the bracken .I was able to get it out, in about 3 pieces.My question is how do you get the new one in?The shift hole under the shifter is to small. And the only way is in the rear? Any suggests? Thx,theduck. |
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KTPhil
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| Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:30 pm Post subject: Re: Shift rod bushing - how to? |
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| Will it fit through the same front access hole the rod is now sticking through? |
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theduck
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| Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Shift rod bushing - how to? |
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| I still have the shift rod out up to the bumper.The hole looks pretty small. Also ,the bracket may get hung up on the other tubes? So I am wondering is their a "Trick" to get it in.Thx,for the reply.theduck. |
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67rustavenger
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| Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Shift rod bushing - how to? |
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Fish the bracket through the front tunnel access hole.
I used a piece of rope tied to the bracket. If you are an electrician, you likely own a "fish tape"reel. That can be used to get the end of the rope through the shift rod hole and then pull the bracket into place.
It's not hard. My bracket didn't get hung up inside the tunnel using the rope (cheap clothes line) method.
Good Luck.
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theduck
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| Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2020 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: Shift rod bushing - how to? |
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 Will give a try. Thx,for the info,theduck |
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