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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Started a new thread.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=161181
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. Can now sleep with both eyes closed.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

note the dropcloth on the table.

translation: the wife is home.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I don't these will fit a subaru, will they?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's just too SWEET for that salty NY. Save it for when you do the real rustoration to the van. Then it will never see the salt again. It is just too pretty to be used in that way!

BTW: Lube the hell out of it with anti-sieze when you do assemble it for real.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here it is. The complete exhaust system from heater box to tailpipe ready for installation. Brings a tear to my eye. It will go in Sunday.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

danfromsyr wrote:
heavy is good. no send them out to be powder coated or sumsuch.


as for a LT6cyl used in volvos those were straight six and don't fit length wise..

the 5cyl does squeek in, stays VAG engine management for my own sanity and on the road diagnosis of issues.. I have a nice low miles (80K low for a 5cyl they regularly hit 300K+) and some great insightful chat with a fellow who's already blazed his own path and Mfg'd and installed the same into his syncro westfalia.

I'll keep my old used heaterboxes around in case LDD>

See you in the spring.. East coast campin.dan


I did the rest of the system in POR15 high temp. I'm gona do the same with these. See ya in the spring
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

heavy is good. no send them out to be powder coated or sumsuch.


as for a LT6cyl used in volvos those were straight six and don't fit length wise..

the 5cyl does squeek in, stays VAG engine management for my own sanity and on the road diagnosis of issues.. I have a nice low miles (80K low for a 5cyl they regularly hit 300K+) and some great insightful chat with a fellow who's already blazed his own path and Mfg'd and installed the same into his syncro westfalia.

I'll keep my old used heaterboxes around in case LDD>

See you in the spring.. East coast campin.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here they are! I'm the proud new father of two beautiful 19lb. twins. These are heavier than I though they would be.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

danfromsyr wrote:
I'm looking at changing mine from 1.6TD to 2.2T 5cyl this spring.

Well, gee, while you are at it, how about the 6cyl VW (from a VW LT?) TD that is in some older Volvos?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lovedavdubs wrote:

Well if all goes well...by then, I may be running a Suby engine Wink


LDD and don't let the nay sayers discourage you from keeping your beautiful blue aircooled. it's a little more work to convert a AC to suby/what-not. but i've done it and can help you with insight for the parts and processes needed for AC to H2o conversion. with minimally invasive surgery.

my favorite word of discouragement is. well the AC doesn't have the heater in the dash.. buy one already H2o. but then you'll need to take the dash apart anyways to fix a locked up or squeaking blower fan.. Embarassed
yeah it's a big task, but if broken down to individual parts, it's not too difficult.

I'm looking at changing mine from 1.6TD to 2.2T 5cyl this spring.
just need a better cruising speed then full throttle (though the TD could push 80, i'd like to cruise @ 80 and it's not fair to the lil 1600cc)

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lovy,

When you come out here to So Cali, they will whack your...for not having EGR. You need ALL the smog stuff hooked up and preferrably working if you hope to have a prayer of getting it past the smog Nazis.


Well if all goes well...by then, I may be running a Suby engine Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lovy,

When you come out here to So Cali, they will whack your...for not having EGR. You need ALL the smog stuff hooked up and preferrably working if you hope to have a prayer of getting it past the smog Nazis.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I have to admit to some major shadetree-ing with my heater boxes.

there is diffinlty no shade tree by him ...lol Laughing

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Why do you want to block off EGR?

It is designed to lower NoX emissions.

in brooklyn -who cares. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work loveda.

I have to admit to some major shadetree-ing with my heater boxes. They were almost as bad as yours. I made extensive use of JBWeld to seal up the ragged ends of the sheet metal, and one side seam which had started to come apart.

On the flanges, which were eaten away to about half their original thickness, I used a flat bastard file to flatten the mating surface as well as I could, then I sanded out the rust with my Dremel. Then I applied a thin layer of JBWeld to the flange surface and clamped a flat plate to it with a sheet of wax paper between the plate and flange. When the JBWeld cured, I filed it flat again. Repeated until I had something that resembled a real flange.

Yes, I know that it's an ugly hack, but I did it for several reasons:
I figured that I had nothing to lose by trying. I could always order new boxes if I messed up.
I had heard that the new heater boxes were not of the best quality, so original boxes would be the preferred choice.
I had spent quite enough on this rebuild up to this point. Spending another $600 on new heater boxes would have just hurt too much. Sad

After 5 months, the bastardised heater boxes are still sealed up perfectly. No complaints yet.
JBWeld - Better than duct tape. Smile

Fitment tips:
Use the copper nuts on the exhaust studs.
Use the good quality sandwich gaskets on the heater-box-to-crossover connection.
Test assemble everything before you go to install it on the engine.
Install the heater boxes loosely (ie. don't tighten the exhaust manifold nuts) until you have the crossover pipe installed. Fasten the crossover pipe to the heater boxes before snugging down the exhaust manifold nuts. This ensures that the heater box flanges line up with the crossover pipe with the minimum of fuss.

Best of luck.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked Wow! this thread really took off since the last time I checked it. Thanks for all the responses! That is a bolt welded in the EGR tube. It was done by a PO. Doesn't matter to me though. That whole system is long gone on my engine Rolling Eyes Also a PO modification Rolling Eyes My old cross over pipe has a gapping exhaust leek at that exact location.

Thanks for the link Dan Wink and thanks for the vote of confidence ms.

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Man, those wheels look nice Cool
Oh these old things Laughing

The new heater boxes should be here in 7-10 days. Well, if we donít have a pictorial for a heater box replacement job currently we will when I get done Wink I'll take pics of everything along the way. Stay posted.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to block it off but I am missing the EGR filter, the valve is stuck closed, ( tried to free it with out success), and the linkage is broke. From what I've read to replace those parts is in the range of hundreds of dollors that I don't have. I would love to keep everything stock but at the moment it is not possible. Maybe some day but for now that is where I'm at.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you want to block off EGR?

It is designed to lower NoX emissions.

Its benefit is lowering combustion temperature which is a big PLUS on a aircooled heavy Vanagon. Sure, your mileage will suffer but your engine will last longer.

In the late '70s on US cars, we used to disconnect EGR to improve performance and mileage but the engine would ping on acceleration.
Very BAD thing to have happen. Reconnecting the EGR valve stopped it.
EGR is a design feature that works hand-in-hand with all the other emission controls. NoX forms when combustion temps go above 2500 degrees F.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So lddubs, is that a bolt welded into the EGR tube. I'm trying to figure out what to do with mine once I get the new exhaust. I blocked off the EGR intake at the air plenum but don't what exhaust gases leaking into the heat.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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try the ratwell site or the type2 site.
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