Hella fog light bumper guard combo

vwovalguy

Can anyone post some pics of these fog lights and tell me the part #'s of the guards and lights?? I will be looking at a set this weekend and need these #'s confirmed as there are different styles of each. Seems like the lights in the 2 photo's are different?

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=223669

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=75474

Any help would be great

Thanks

markm · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:52 am Post subject:

I think Chris over at L5VW had a set of those recently.

Kubel Nick · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:06 am Post subject:

picts I have I saved from earlier:

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Peter_Plade · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:27 pm Post subject:

The red oval is mine and both the guards and lights are from Hella.
But be aware that the guards are left and right sided, they are not the same.
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vwovalguy · Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:45 pm Post subject:

Thanks Peter,

I was aware of that already, but can you tell me about the amber lights on the rometsch? Are they original or just a common set added to the gaurds? I need to know if they used different foglights on these and which ones are correct. Can you give me a part# of your lights?

Mike

Peter_Plade · Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:49 am Post subject:

Hi Mike

I dont know if there diffrent sets available but assume that all HELLA
lights that fits would be correct?!

On the outside just over the glass it says: n=23cm/5m.
And on the reflector it says: Nr. 110 zh-9
That is all I can find, but there is also some numbers inside the gurds.
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Evert Tersiqo · Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:11 am Post subject:

Hallo Guys,

Needs your help I need the fog light for my bumper guard...please help...

alexwoa · Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:15 pm Post subject: hella bumper guards + lamps

hello,

the red rometsch's lamps are not correct.
it is selfexplaining because this are BOSCH ! lamps on hella bumper guards.

those bosch nipple lamps are very nice but not mixed with hella guards Smile

)

i have a set of original hellas for the bumpers left - so if anyone needs them - please email me.

best regards
alex

tomas persson · Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 2:48 pm Post subject:

Hi Mike and Peter,

There where 2 diffrent styles available... for round or oval shaped lights. One set o guards for each type. These where made for the earlier kind of bumper too, used on split bugs also. I have a Hella catalouge from the summer of 1958, where the diffrent kinds are on pictures...

Peter, you know me... the guy with the green/white split bus at the swap meet of Bug Run. =)

53 0val · Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject:

ProjectX · Accessory Nut Joined: May 01, 2006 Posts: 1014

What is the difference of the mounts for the round lights or the oval lights???

I own a set of these and can't imagine what would change for round lights or oval lights to mount on the top.

I can tell you that just about any small Hella light will mount on the bumper horns, Marchal fog lights will not.
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Evert Tersiqo · Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: hella bumper guards + lamps

Peter_Plade · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:57 am Post subject:

tomas persson · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:55 am Post subject:

Here comes the pictures for you... I can translate if wanted.

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ProjectX · Accessory Nut Joined: May 01, 2006 Posts: 1014

OK, now I see. Those oval shaped lights won't mount on the bumper horn brackets. The stem on those sticks straight down.

The round lights you see pictured on the bumper horn brackets have a stem that leaves the light diagonally to the rear of the light, matching up with the bumper horn bracket.

I have a small set of round Hella lights with grille guards that I will be running on my set, they fit great.
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tomas persson · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:19 pm Post subject:

Well, I think they would. The oval lights called "128ZN-4" are made to fit the guards called "16/117", and that the "110ZN-9" (dia 110mm) and the "130ZN-9" (dia 130mm) are made to fit the guards called "16/68".

IN2VWS · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:18 pm Post subject:

To add to the information Tomas has posted, here are some pics of the 2 styles of mounts from Hella catalogs.

Here are some pics from a 1950's Happich catalog which has one style of mount, but it is for both style lamps.

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tomas persson · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:28 pm Post subject:

And I see that there are another size of the lamps also = 120 mm in dia.

IN2VWS · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject:

This is from a 1953 Happich catalog.
Beware, not all these mounts are for a VW. Sometimes people have sold DKW versions as VW.

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tomas persson · Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 3:46 pm Post subject:

Yes. In my catalog there are for Opel Olympia 51-52, Kapitän 51, Ford Taunus 12M and 15M, Mercedes 170S and 220, Borgward and DKW.
So beware...


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