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cdennisg Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:14 pm Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ |
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richparker wrote: |
^Local Tire Shop |
OK. Point S? _________________ nothing |
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richparker Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2011 Posts: 6936 Location: Durango, CO
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20233 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ |
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richparker wrote: |
cdennisg wrote: |
richparker wrote: |
^Local Tire Shop |
OK. Point S? |
Point S is a large tire chain which is big in the PNW and western Canada.
http://pointstire.com/home.aspx?dec=1 |
OK. Been in the PNW for 22 years and never heard of it. That is why the confusion. _________________ nothing |
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VW Man 53 Samba Member
Joined: November 12, 2011 Posts: 588 Location: Scotia, New York
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:21 am Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ |
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Hey everybody, i want to get firestone destination AT's for my 69 bay in 205/75 15's, i have 15" smoothies. I'm slightly confused as to what you guys on here refer to as a light truck tire, i'm aware that real light truck tires in the american industry have the "LT" designation. I found these online with full specs, they are a c-rated 1,598lb max load tire but do not carry the "LT" designation, walmart.com does refer to them as a light truck tire, do you think these tires would be a safe choice for my bus?
Tirerack-https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=...5DESTATOWL _________________ You CAN save them all. |
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ |
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Car tires P205/75/15 and "SL" (standard load). They lack the meatier sidewalls would be my guess. |
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VW Man 53 Samba Member
Joined: November 12, 2011 Posts: 588 Location: Scotia, New York
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:39 pm Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ |
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Randy in Maine wrote: |
Car tires P205/75/15 and "SL" (standard load). They lack the meatier sidewalls would be my guess. |
are you referring to the ply of the tire? i've been reading through this thread and through the debates about whats safe, this tire seems to cover almost every base, i really cant seem to find a white letter sidewall tire or actually any tire at all for a 15 inch rim with the "LT" rating under the size of 235 or 30 inch _________________ You CAN save them all. |
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
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richparker Samba Member
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VW Man 53 Samba Member
Joined: November 12, 2011 Posts: 588 Location: Scotia, New York
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ |
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those are fine, but they also are passenger rated tires _________________ You CAN save them all. |
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nemobuscaptain Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 3874
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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:51 pm Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ |
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VW Man 53 wrote: |
Hey everybody, i want to get firestone destination AT's for my 69 bay in 205/75 15's, i have 15" smoothies. I'm slightly confused as to what you guys on here refer to as a light truck tire, i'm aware that real light truck tires in the american industry have the "LT" designation. I found these online with full specs, they are a c-rated 1,598lb max load tire but do not carry the "LT" designation, walmart.com does refer to them as a light truck tire, do you think these tires would be a safe choice for my bus?
Tirerack-https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=...5DESTATOWL |
How wide are your rims? If those are bug rims, very narrow, you may have other issues bc few tires will fit those rims.
There are a few other 15" tire choices. Usually plugging in 93 Eurovan into the configurator will do the trick. I see a few 205/65/15 XL tires available.
Those Bus Depot tires look like a smoking deal though. I'd buy today if I need 15s _________________ Ohio Valley Tribe, Full Moon Bus Club https://www.facebook.com/groups/294422277314227/
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VW Man 53 Samba Member
Joined: November 12, 2011 Posts: 588 Location: Scotia, New York
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ |
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nemobuscaptain wrote: |
VW Man 53 wrote: |
Hey everybody, i want to get firestone destination AT's for my 69 bay in 205/75 15's, i have 15" smoothies. I'm slightly confused as to what you guys on here refer to as a light truck tire, i'm aware that real light truck tires in the american industry have the "LT" designation. I found these online with full specs, they are a c-rated 1,598lb max load tire but do not carry the "LT" designation, walmart.com does refer to them as a light truck tire, do you think these tires would be a safe choice for my bus?
Tirerack-https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=...5DESTATOWL |
How wide are your rims? If those are bug rims, very narrow, you may have other issues bc few tires will fit those rims.
There are a few other 15" tire choices. Usually plugging in 93 Eurovan into the configurator will do the trick. I see a few 205/65/15 XL tires available.
Those Bus Depot tires look like a smoking deal though. I'd buy today if I need 15s |
my rims are factory wide 5 smoothies, but they've been widened to 6 and 3/4 of an inch wide. _________________ You CAN save them all. |
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:42 am Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ |
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That is fine. My GoWesty alloys are 15"x 7" and similar tires (205/65/15) mount well on there. |
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:43 am Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ |
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That is fine. My GoWesty alloys are 15"x 7" and similar tires (205/65/15) mount well on there.
Key thing though is the wheel ET. It can be tight in the rear. |
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VW Man 53 Samba Member
Joined: November 12, 2011 Posts: 588 Location: Scotia, New York
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Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:14 pm Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ |
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Randy in Maine wrote: |
That is fine. My GoWesty alloys are 15"x 7" and similar tires (205/65/15) mount well on there.
Key thing though is the wheel ET. It can be tight in the rear. |
What exactly is "wheel ET"? _________________ You CAN save them all. |
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Ride_On Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2015 Posts: 385 Location: Ottawa, Canada
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:51 am Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ |
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ET is the offset of the wheel - i.e. how far in- or out-board the wheel attaches to the hub. Here's a great numeric and visual tool that lets you play with settings:
https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/?wheel1=185-80-14X...amp;sr=0mm
It's been pre-loaded with stock VW steelies (77 Bay Window) and Mercedes 99-2002 CLK alloys, plus tires in both cases. _________________ 1977 Westfalia 2.0 FI Skills EJ25 w SubaruGears 5sp
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20233 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:30 pm Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ |
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If I were in need of them, these would already be in the mail. Great tire at a great price. _________________ nothing |
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vwwestyman Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2004 Posts: 5680 Location: Manhattan, Kansas, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:14 am Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ |
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Question for those of you running the 27x8.5x14 General Grabber AT2s.
I've currently got 17 in New Beetle rims on my '78 Bus with Fuzion 225/55/17 tires on it.
I like the looks of this combo just fine. However, they seem to have a large contact patch which would be great except for they have significantly increased the steering effort. This is in comparison to stock tires on my '73 Bus. By comparison, the '73 is light and nimble while the '78 feels like it lumbers around.
I also kinda dig the off-road look of the AT2s vs the Fuzions which have pretty smooth-looking tread. I do like to take it on old dirt roads at times, and once got pretty nervous on a rain-slicked mud road.
So the question is, how do the Grabbers drive with a Bus? Did you think that they caused a significant increase in turning effort? (Or, put another way, would switching to the Grabbers decrease MY turning effort)
I have Grabbers on my Thing and while I didn't drive it before putting those on (bought it non-running on bad tires), it is pretty easy to steer. (Though it does have a whole lot less weight on those same tires, so not quite apples to oranges.) _________________ Dave Cook
President, Wild Westerner Club
1978 Champagne Edition Westy, repowered to '97 Jetta TDI
1973 Wild Westerner
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vwwestyman Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2004 Posts: 5680 Location: Manhattan, Kansas, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ |
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I guess what I'd love to hear is from someone who switched from stock tires to the Grabbers so they could say, "It still turns easily" or "I notice a little more effort but not much" or "Its like driving a car that should have power steering, but the power steering is broken!"
That is how I describe driving the Bus with the wide tires. Not a problem at speed at all, but at low speeds it is very similar to a car with broken power steering and enough of a difference to be annoying/unpleasant to drive. _________________ Dave Cook
President, Wild Westerner Club
1978 Champagne Edition Westy, repowered to '97 Jetta TDI
1973 Wild Westerner
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cdennisg Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:37 pm Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ |
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I suppose that is to be expected with a wider contact patch, but have you experimented much with your PSI? What it says in the owner's manual doesn't mean much with your current setup.
I have not driven on Grabbers, but my BFG's, once I found the right PSI, were just fine as far as steering feel. _________________ nothing |
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vwwestyman Samba Member
Joined: April 24, 2004 Posts: 5680 Location: Manhattan, Kansas, USA
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Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ |
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cdennisg wrote: |
I suppose that is to be expected with a wider contact patch, but have you experimented much with your PSI? What it says in the owner's manual doesn't mean much with your current setup.
I have not driven on Grabbers, but my BFG's, once I found the right PSI, were just fine as far as steering feel. |
Yes. I've bumped it up to the max. I don't recall what I used to run or how I decided to run that... It wasn't at the max before, but was higher than the owner's manual.
Bumping up the PSI did help, and I didn't note any issues with handling/driving other than perhaps noticing a little bit less of the cushioning tires provide. _________________ Dave Cook
President, Wild Westerner Club
1978 Champagne Edition Westy, repowered to '97 Jetta TDI
1973 Wild Westerner
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