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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 8:06 pm    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

I ran the grabbers studded, on the back only of my 73 this winter Fantastic snow tire. I left the hankooks on the front.the bus handled ok but not as good as the hankooks on all 4
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

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I ran the grabbers studded, on the back only of my 73 this winter Fantastic snow tire. I left the hankooks on the front.the bus handled ok but not as good as the hankooks on all 4
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In many states it is illegal to run studded tires on only the front or rear, all four tires need studs, or none at all. Most shops will not install only two studded tires on a car due to liability/legality.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

HAHAHA not in new mexico. This isn't a nanny state by any stretch
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

For the record, the 2 reasons for not running studs is 1) they do not stop as fast on dry pavement and 2) they damage road surfaces more. A lot more.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

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For the record, the 2 reasons for not running studs is 1) they do not stop as fast on dry pavement and 2) they damage road surfaces more. A lot more.


I run studded snow on my Toyota pickup in the winter. They are excellent on icy roads. But they suck on WET pavement even more than dry pavement. And yes, they do damage the road surface. But in an area with heavy freeze/thaw cycles, they are impossible to beat.

The issue at hand isn't whether or not to run studded tires, but running studded tires on only one axle. It's not a good idea.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

The studs of today are not like the studs of yesterday, much shallower. Running them only on the rear works out ok on a bay bus. I was able to push pretty hard in corners up to the point of understeer in the snow , very controllable.Next winter I will probably run studded grabbers on all 4.LOOK OUT Subarus !
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

Any reason not to run this tire: Douglas All Season 195/70R14 91S SL. Apparently these are made by Goodyear for Walmart. Load rating per tire is 1356 pounds. These are going on a 1978 bus, not a camper, generally will not be loaded in any way other than 2-3 passengers. The bus currently has 205/14 70 tires but they are 28 years old!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2017 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

That is a cheaply made passenger car tire. Get something with stiff sidewalls.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

Call up your local Walmart and see if they can order you up a set of these...maybe you will get lucky.

http://www.busdepot.com/ra18
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

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Call up your local Walmart and see if they can order you up a set of these...maybe you will get lucky.

http://www.busdepot.com/ra18


Or just buy these and save lots of coin. I did and they shipped quick.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-New-185R14-LRD-8-Ply-Han...mp;vxp=mtr
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:58 am    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

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Randy in Maine wrote:
Call up your local Walmart and see if they can order you up a set of these...maybe you will get lucky.

http://www.busdepot.com/ra18


Or just buy these and save lots of coin. I did and they shipped quick.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-New-185R14-LRD-8-Ply-Han...mp;vxp=mtr


$286.00 shipped free for all 4? that is hard to beat!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 9:45 pm    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

Just for shits & giggles, especially if your van is farm bound or as a backup pair of traction tires when you're deep in the wilderness.
https://simpletire.com/bkt-25-8.514-94042050-tires...Amoc8P8HAQ
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

But these in 185r 14 with a 8 ply in load D range for $50 seem too good to be true.
https://simpletire.com/thunderer-185-r14c-th0304-t...Ap168P8HAQ
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 12:43 am    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

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Just for shits & giggles, especially if your van is farm bound or as a backup pair of traction tires when you're deep in the wilderness.
https://simpletire.com/bkt-25-8.514-94042050-tires...Amoc8P8HAQ


Stuart would rock those on the daily, I'm sure. Razz
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:17 am    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

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Just for shits & giggles, especially if your van is farm bound or as a backup pair of traction tires when you're deep in the wilderness.
https://simpletire.com/bkt-25-8.514-94042050-tires...Amoc8P8HAQ


Stuart would rock those on the daily, I'm sure. Razz

After seeing some of his adventures with tire failure, I'm pretty sure he'd roll the tires that just came off my bus, they still had plenty of tread.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:20 am    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

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But these in 185r 14 with a 8 ply in load D range for $50 seem too good to be true.
https://simpletire.com/thunderer-185-r14c-th0304-t...Ap168P8HAQ


I have a set of these on a non running bus. Got them off a junker vanagon. Haven't driven on them yet, but they seem to be plenty stiff with a decent tread.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:15 am    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

I just talked to my local tire guys & they quoted me $60 each mounted & balanced, I'm definitely going this route... when I'm closer to driving it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:19 am    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

TDCTDI wrote:
I just talked to my local tire guys & they quoted me $60 each mounted & balanced, I'm definitely going this route... when I'm closer to driving it.



Made in Thailand by the way. Let us know what you think of them after driving a while on them. I see they come in a 195R14 size also.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

Stuart would rock those on the daily, I'm sure. Razz[/quote]
After seeing some of his adventures with tire failure, I'm pretty sure he'd roll the tires that just came off my bus, they still had plenty of tread.
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Or he could have these just taken off my bus, dated 1990. They have lots of tread too.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: The Tire Sticky FAQ Reply with quote

Randy in Maine wrote:
TDCTDI wrote:
I just talked to my local tire guys & they quoted me $60 each mounted & balanced, I'm definitely going this route... when I'm closer to driving it.



Made in Thailand by the way. Let us know what you think of them after driving a while on them. I see they come in a 195R14 size also.

Hah! You funny! I'm not the one to report back on longevity, I go through 30-50 vehicles a year. It'll be amazing if I get more than 2,000 miles on the set. Come to think of it, I should just toss a set of car tires on it. Twisted Evil

It's interesting that one of the top rubber producing countries has such a poor reputation with tires. But hey, all the cheap junk used to be made in Japan.
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