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otiswesty
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 Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2020 11:45 pm Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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Nigel, did you drill the front panel of your bus for the headlight washers?
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NASkeet
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| Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 8:37 am Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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| Nigel, did you drill the front panel of your bus for the headlight washers? |
I haven't done so yet Eric. Why do you ask?
I still need to determine the required position for the holes and their diameter.
I also need to determine the required position and orientation of the headlamp-washer pump; assuming that I shall be using the same lengths of hose as described in the parts catalogue.
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notchboy
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| Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2020 9:49 am Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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| NASkeet wrote: |
| otiswesty wrote: |
| Nigel, did you drill the front panel of your bus for the headlight washers? |
I haven't done so yet Eric. Why do you ask?
I still need to determine the required position for the holes and their diameter.
I also need to determine the required position and orientation of the headlamp-washer pump; assuming that I shall be using the same lengths of hose as described in the parts catalogue. |
Otiswesty, quit being a weenie and just do it.   You don't like my method of "looks like its right about ....... here?".
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NASkeet
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| Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:13 am Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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| notchboy wrote: |
| NASkeet wrote: |
| otiswesty wrote: |
| Nigel, did you drill the front panel of your bus for the headlight washers? |
I haven't done so yet Eric. Why do you ask?
I still need to determine the required position for the holes and their diameter.
I also need to determine the required position and orientation of the headlamp-washer pump; assuming that I shall be using the same lengths of hose as described in the parts catalogue. |
Otiswesty, quit being a weenie and just do it. You don't like my method of "looks like its right about ....... here?". |
Jason, that approach is okay with hindsight when things go all right without any oversights or problems. I try to anticipate the potential problems in order to avoid them!
One of my acquaintances down the road from me, has a Swedish Army specification, 1975 VW Type 2, so when it's convenient for both of us, I shall check things on his van, of which of course I shall notify you all! 
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Much modified, RHD 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, with the World's only decent, cross-over-arm, SWF pantograph rear-window wiper
Onetime member, plus former Technical Editor & Editor of Transporter Talk magazine
Volkswagen Type 2 Owners' Club (Great Britain)
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notchboy
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| Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:45 am Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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| NASkeet wrote: |
| notchboy wrote: |
| NASkeet wrote: |
| otiswesty wrote: |
| Nigel, did you drill the front panel of your bus for the headlight washers? |
I haven't done so yet Eric. Why do you ask?
I still need to determine the required position for the holes and their diameter.
I also need to determine the required position and orientation of the headlamp-washer pump; assuming that I shall be using the same lengths of hose as described in the parts catalogue. |
Otiswesty, quit being a weenie and just do it. You don't like my method of "looks like its right about ....... here?". |
Jason, that approach is okay with hindsight when things go all right without any oversights or problems. I try to anticipate the potential problems in order to avoid them!
One of my acquaintances down the road from me, has Swedish Army specification, 1975 VW Type 2, so when it's convenient for both of us, I shall check things on his van, of which of course I shall notify you all! |
I appreciate that methodology for sure, with brain surgery or even making the perfect Pho broth, but not necessarily for two holes.
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OK, this thread is over. You win. |
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NASkeet
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| Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 9:47 am Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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| notchboy wrote: |
| NASkeet wrote: |
| notchboy wrote: |
| NASkeet wrote: |
| otiswesty wrote: |
| Nigel, did you drill the front panel of your bus for the headlight washers? |
I haven't done so yet Eric. Why do you ask?
I still need to determine the required position for the holes and their diameter.
I also need to determine the required position and orientation of the headlamp-washer pump; assuming that I shall be using the same lengths of hose as described in the parts catalogue. |
Otiswesty, quit being a weenie and just do it. You don't like my method of "looks like its right about ....... here?". |
Jason, that approach is okay with hindsight when things go all right without any oversights or problems. I try to anticipate the potential problems in order to avoid them!
One of my acquaintances down the road from me, has Swedish Army specification, 1975 VW Type 2, so when it's convenient for both of us, I shall check things on his van, of which of course I shall notify you all! |
I appreciate that methodology for sure, with brain surgery or even making the perfect Pho broth, but not necessarily for two holes.
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What method did you use to determine the required position for the designer dents!?! 
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Much modified, RHD 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, with the World's only decent, cross-over-arm, SWF pantograph rear-window wiper
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notchboy
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| Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2020 10:18 am Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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Those are my street credit marks  Came with the bus as part of her torrid past 
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NASkeet
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| Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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| Those are my street credit marks Came with the bus as part of her torrid past |
Now that you've got the "rare" headlamp washers, when are you going to upgrade with the probably "rarer" SVD/SWW wash-wiper blades!?!
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SamboSamba22
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notchboy
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| Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2020 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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| NASkeet wrote: |
| notchboy wrote: |
| Those are my street credit marks Came with the bus as part of her torrid past |
Now that you've got the "rare" headlamp washers, when are you going to upgrade with the probably "rarer" SVD/SWW wash-wiper blades!?! |
Those are an odd money for sure, but its the blade that makes them special right? The water delivery is built into the blade? If so, you will be hard pressed to find a replacement, no?
I did find aftermarket nozzles/jets that can be clipped onto the wiper blade frame and have water run to it. A modern approach to the blade version.
https://www.carbuilder.com/uk/arm-mounted-windscreen-washer-double-jet-black
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NASkeet
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| Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2020 8:49 am Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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| notchboy wrote: |
| NASkeet wrote: |
| notchboy wrote: |
| Those are my street credit marks Came with the bus as part of her torrid past |
Now that you've got the "rare" headlamp washers, when are you going to upgrade with the probably "rarer" SVD/SWW wash-wiper blades!?! |
Those are an odd money for sure, but its the blade that makes them special right? The water delivery is built into the blade? If so, you will be hard pressed to find a replacement, no?
I did find aftermarket nozzles/jets that can be clipped onto the wiper blade frame and have water run to it. A modern approach to the blade version.
https://www.carbuilder.com/uk/arm-mounted-windscreen-washer-double-jet-black
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These might certainly be a future option, although I might resort to the car & van breakers' yards to see if I could get some second-hand SWF washers from a Mercedes Vito van or MAN truck.
Products from Carbuilder.com tend to be rather expensive, but consulting their catalogue (of which I have an old paper edition) does give some insight into what sorts of things are available.
https://www.carbuilder.com/uk/CatalogueRequest
Black Windscreen Washer Double Jet IVA OK
https://www.carbuilder.com/uk/windscreen-washer-double-jet-iva-ok-black
Windscreen Washer Tube 90 Degree Bulkhead Joiner Black
https://www.carbuilder.com/uk/windscreen-washer-tube-90-degree-bulkhead-joiner-black
I have several sets of spare blade rubbers for my SVD/SWW wiper blades, so providing they don't deteriorate in storage, I should have at least a decade or so before i need any more!?!
Given that the blade-rubber is simply an extrusion, it should be possible to make an extrusion-die to reproduce the blade-rubber's profile.
The perforations can be made using a pin-drill bit of circa 0·5 mm diameter, which I have done in the past to increase the number of perforations, to further improve the uniformity of water distribution ahead of the blade's leading edge.
In the past, I have suggested other design modifications to the manufacturer to improve performance and durability, but never got any reply.
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otiswesty
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| Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:13 pm Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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I'm not sure my headlights need washing, but I think I'll just go with the optional T2 wind screen washer jets, rather than that wiper arm mounted funny business.
Still looking for a nice set for sale tho.
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otiswesty
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 8:33 pm Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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Yes this is the same car from the Bulli museum that I took a picture of as well.
I saw it in the PS.Speicher museum where it was on loan.
Please let me know if you know of a set of the large washer jets for sale. Sometimes they throw eggs and such here in Portland.
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notchboy
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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Yes this is the same car from the Bulli museum that I took a picture of as well.
I saw it in the PS.Speicher museum where it was on loan.
Please let me know if you know of a set of the large washer jets for sale. Sometimes they throw eggs and such here in Portland.
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I will fly up there, pay for lunch and beer at the Lucky Lab just to help assist you in cutting what Im sure will be "Big Ass Holes".
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cdennisg
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:28 pm Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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And those big black warts are in improvement how? Am I missing something?
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rsbadura
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 11:33 pm Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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| And those big black warts are in improvement how? Am I missing something? |
As I said, against e.g. paint bombs... and other things like eggs, mud ... thrown by protesters.
If you need urgent a lot of water on the whole windscreen - and not only a drop of water and wipers smear over this
This is not a normal or common police car as e.g. at a traffic accident. This is used with its speakers in case of political demonstrations - emagine in the seventies thousands of people against war as Vietnam, nuclear weapons, nuclear power and its scrap, ... police with other cars as e.g. big water cannons on trucks and hundrets or thousands of police men in protective clothing... helicopters over them... then you have the scenario for this car. It did not stand with its speakers in the first row, because of missing window grilles (or: there are some brackets, may be removable - and may be these were not combatible with the standard washers jets), that some other police car need to have.
These screen washer jets are not mounted on normal police bay windows. I guess they come from other vehicles like trucks - but never seen them as on this car - so extremely rare, but not from VW. The bay window was transformed to a police car by "Franz Xaver Kögel" company, https://www.koegel.com/, that since 1934 till today build special trucks and trailers.
My few pictures from inside the cabine, I see part of a standard kick panel - not the swedish extra large water reservoir. But I cannot see at my pictures the water pump or standard reservoir or what mounted instead of them.
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Abscate
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:37 am Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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God must have been on leave when those were invented. That is f-ugly.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:37 am Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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I deleted abscate post because in fact I was on leave trying to convince Mike Pence that Corona isn’t a beer.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 3:59 am Post subject: Re: Baywindow "Rarest of the Rare" FAQ |
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Looks like the over riders were installed a little bit too high... |
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