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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go with this aftermarket power window and locks. $150 for power lock alarm system, $175 for the power window system. If your handy you could install it yourself or go to a stereo installer. I did most of it myself. Not that hard.

Go with the Spal power windows and switch
Go with A-1 Mes power lock alarm

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These SPAL switches look much better than stock (and come with LED backlighting)
http://www.a1electric.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?S...980-21-007

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The SPAL kit is complete and installs easily. Windows are quiet and fast. Feels like a quality system. I can't comment on their longevity as I only installed mine last June.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found it a LOT easier to junk the stock stuff and have a stereo shop add a modern system.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone added power door locks to their van lately?

I would really like to add the whole system to my Joker. Guess I've gotten so used to having power locks on my Westy. Wink

I see that VC has all the switches for the slider and all the factory actuators for the doors, slider, and rear hatch. It's kinda spendy but would be stock.

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spal kits deluxe are great for power windows Wink
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is already power in/near the rear hatch, so you'd think there would be some radio wave control kit made for them...
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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DogPilot,

What is this Swiss company you are talking about? Do you think the Spal company makes the "chessy" ones?

Thanks,

James


Ancient thread, but no doubt DP was referring to MES kits. Highly recommended for the doorlocks, though I don't know anything about their window kits, which may not be MES stuff
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2011 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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presslab wrote:
The stock brackets make for a clean install. I didn't use the stock actuators as most are broken and corroded and not worth the trouble. With regard to the rear hatch, if you want true lock/unlock capability (not just 'trunk release') you will need the OEM lock unit. The non-power slider lock can be made to work but it's tricky.


I have been able to make the rear function properly, but only with the power slider assembly. Make sure to ask for it when buying locksets.


InSyncro,
Do I understand correctly that you got the rear hatch to lock/unlock (as opposed to trunk release) with the slider door power lock contacts and/or assembly? Can you elaborate on this?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The stock brackets make for a clean install. I didn't use the stock actuators as most are broken and corroded and not worth the trouble. With regard to the rear hatch, if you want true lock/unlock capability (not just 'trunk release') you will need the OEM lock unit. The non-power slider lock can be made to work but it's tricky.


I have been able to make the rear function properly, but only with the power slider assembly. Make sure to ask for it when buying locksets.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The stock brackets make for a clean install. I didn't use the stock actuators as most are broken and corroded and not worth the trouble. With regard to the rear hatch, if you want true lock/unlock capability (not just 'trunk release') you will need the OEM lock unit. The non-power slider lock can be made to work but it's tricky.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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delta-vanagon wrote:
To answer your question, yes new technologies, and parts would beat a 20+ year old system. If you want options you could look at the Hoffman Group, Autoloc website for neat toys that are available. http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/autoloc/


Anybody install this kit in their late model Westy?
http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/autoloc/doorlocksconfigure.lasso?step=universal4doorkit

I assume it would still require some OEM parts for the sliding door and rear hatch, and also the front door brackets, correct?


I may have jumped the gun on the kit. Following their vehicle selection pull-downs for a '91 vanagon, the suggested kit is the one specifically for VW:
http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/autoloc/details.lasso?itemid=vwck

Under Accessories for this kit, there is a hatch add-on:
http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/autoloc/details.lasso?itemid=PT1000
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:52 pm    Post subject: power locks Reply with quote

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delta-vanagon wrote:
To answer your question, yes new technologies, and parts would beat a 20+ year old system. If you want options you could look at the Hoffman Group, Autoloc website for neat toys that are available. http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/autoloc/


Anybody install this kit in their late model Westy?
http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/autoloc/doorlocksconfigure.lasso?step=universal4doorkit

I assume it would still require some OEM parts for the sliding door and rear hatch, and also the front door brackets, correct?


I was in Princess Auto in Canada in August and saw a kit to add power locks to a vehicle. The parts, though not the brand, seem to to be identical to the kit referenced above. At the time I didn't think of what I'd do about the slider or the hatch, but I did shortly after I bought it. It will be easy to add them to the front doors, but as was mentioned, you'd need to have some original equipment for the hatch and slider. I don't think I'm going to bother to add it just for the front doors, so if anyone is interested, I'm selling the kit like the one refenced above. Contact me privately.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

delta-vanagon wrote:
To answer your question, yes new technologies, and parts would beat a 20+ year old system. If you want options you could look at the Hoffman Group, Autoloc website for neat toys that are available. http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/autoloc/


Anybody install this kit in their late model Westy?
http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/autoloc/doorlocksconfigure.lasso?step=universal4doorkit

I assume it would still require some OEM parts for the sliding door and rear hatch, and also the front door brackets, correct?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To answer your question, yes new technologies, and parts would beat a 20+ year old system. If you want options you could look at the Hoffman Group, Autoloc website for neat toys that are available. http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/autoloc/
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have done power mirror, power window and power lock retrofitting on many vans.
You will need the bulkhead subharnesses, door harnesses and front to back harnesses. Vans without these options stock do not have any of the subharnesses installed.
All power door lock actuators are held in place by brackets. Easy retro, just drill holes and rivet in place.
The hardest part of the retro is getting the front to back subharness out of the donor and into the retro van. GLs and Carats have the wiring up in the roof section and it gets routed in and out of the unibody construction, so you can not just pull it out. The headliner should be cut out to gain access. I have not used a Westy as a donor, so I am not sure where all the stock wiring is as the roof section is different.

I have ALL wiring, relays, actuators, brackets, mirrors and window regulators available. I will only sell them as complete kits ready to install.
Your best bet is to buy a complete parts van with these items as I will not let these complete kits go for hundreds of dollars. Single pieces such as the window regulators are worth that alone.

If you are looking to have me retro your van I will discount the entire parts package as it will take a day and a half, minimum, of labor to install properly.

I can also make NEW harnesses from marine grade wiring that will out last your van. Your van must be sent to my shop for such upgrades and I will not sell the NEW harnesses outright.

Hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cloudbaseracer wrote:
beteljuze,

Where do I get these "better ones" that you are talking about? Do you have brand/company names and model number?

DogPilot,

What is this Swiss company you are talking about? Do you think the Spal company makes the "chessy" ones?

Thanks,

James


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Currently no power locks in our van. Any advice/update on a good quality after market kit?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beteljuze,

Where do I get these "better ones" that you are talking about? Do you have brand/company names and model number?

DogPilot,

What is this Swiss company you are talking about? Do you think the Spal company makes the "chessy" ones?

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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CurtisS,

So your van alredy has the motors? Why would they do this but not provide the power to them? That just seems like a simple thing to do when new at the factory.

James


My van already has power windows. I was commenting that a van with manual cranks may already has the mounting points for power windows in place.
My van does have the power locks assemblies (the part where you pull/push the lock) but they are not wired to work.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did some research on this cause I wanted to put power windows in my 88 Westy.There are two types.The less expensive(read cheaper)ones are just a motor with a cable system that turns your window crank.These are easy to install because the unit can mount anywhere in the door as long as the one end fits over the cranker.These are all over Ebay.So if your windows are hard to crank with the handle,I would imagine the motor's gonna have a hard time,till it burns out.The better ones replace the window regulator with a new one that has a motor fitted to it.This would be much like the original system.Of couse its more coin,and harder to install,because now you must take every thing out and replace it with this.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I agree that many of those kits are cheesey. However, you can buy several kits for the price of an OG set of well aged actuators. You can pay the extra $20 and get the swiss made kit.
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