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EXITSTRATEGY
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: how much trouble will i get into? Reply with quote

first my thanks to jim for beeing cool, and not scary or creepy. it was great having someone to travel with. 2nd, don't transfer the girl from devil's tower. not everyone should be forced to watch close encounters of the third kind. third, don't do drugs, fourthly thanks be to the engineers who helped me get back on the road for <50$.

NOW: " the situation"
was drivinf from big sky to kalamazoo... clutch goes out, powershift to the truckstop, camp.....

oooh, heartburn.

if i don't replace the hydraulic clutch system now, what's my eventual damage?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anybody that drives a old type 2 with a cable or a Vanagon with hydraulic system, needs to get used to driving once in a while without the clutch being able to release.
With some practice, one can drive for weeks without ever touching the clutch pedal. (I was taught by a master!) CERTAINLY you have to plan where you stop. The only way to stop and restart is to shut off the engine, put it in 1st, then use the starter. Uphill is not easy for the starter. Downhill is nicer.
And no, if you are gentle, you'll not cause damage. If it is making a lot of noise, it IS causing damage. You've got to match the drive and driven gear speeds with the accelerator pedal. It should just "snick" in kinda like a motorcycle shift.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did two clutches back to back last Sept in my driveway. Floor jack, two jack stands and some funky tools. Large soft mat with assorted beer bottles handy and coffee cans for bolts, nuts and knuckle scrapings.

Takes longer to get the axles off than anything else. Pop the trans, pop the clutch out, run it to the shop for milling on the flywheel. Get a good SACHs full set, swap out the gear oil to synthetic, maybe and ONLY if you can
get the tool from someone, to the pilot bearing. Total PITA if you do not have the right tool. I rented one from Autozone. Took 4 mintues...
Repack the CV's with synthetic red grease.

Replaced rear main seal.

Balance the trans back on the floor jack and push it all back in...
simple easy almost as much fun as a virgin in heaven....probably slid in easier.

Buckle the trans, starter and bleed the hydro slave. Replace it if it looks nasty. (which is not to be confused with YOU looking nasty with gear oil in your hair....or lack therein if you are MightyArtie). Bleeding system was high tech. 2x4 pushing on the clutch pedal holding it to the floor. You run back and bleed. Pump and push and hold, run back and bleed....

Whole freaking thing took 4 hours and was off to In and Out Burger for lunch and a massage at Suzies for the sore neck and back...

Cost: $100 or so for the clutch kit, $7 bucks a quart for synthetic times 4. Mill work at Decker was $25.. Quart of brake fluid at Walmart was $2-
Rear Main Seal: 7 bucks or so also.

Massage at Suzies was $60 bucks, (charged 10% fuel surcharge)
Satisfaction--- Worth two virgins...albeit legal ones at that TYVM

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is Suzie's the local AMP?

What is "TYVM?"
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Susie is a local working girl. Trims her finger nails when she is at County Bar Motel... Shame on you Shame on you
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

r39o wrote:
What is "TYVM?"

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you very much (cha ching bling bling) Embarassed
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weinerwagen.... have I seen you pass through Monterey? I should warn the local "help" Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

backcountrymedic wrote:
Weinerwagen.... have I seen you pass through Monterey? I should warn the local "help" Wink


Just keep the cops tipped off for the cute guy in the diesel Vanagon towing a GTI SCCA G Pro leaving Jacks Peak...it takes a bit for the the "Turtle" to wind itself up along 68 heading to...or sneaking out of mom and dad's trailerpark there at Laguna Seca Ranch Estates (such ghetto!) on my way to the er ah, (Lord who is buying the track this year....oh yeah!) Mazda International Speedway aka as Laguna Seca...weenies playland from 1968...

And if you break down near Toro Park tell our fire capt renter you can use the hose he ALWAYS leaves on the front lawn....btw his rent is late...

Oh yeah, wave at Cowboy High School downtown Salinas, the admin STILL has stories floating around about the Johnson boy's and their antics...shame the old man didnt send the boys to Palma, at least when the class action suits from da brothas were settled there would have been SOME EXCUSE for the conduct leading up to 2006...

They are STILL unsure who knocked over John Steinbeck's statue in front of the library way back in 1972 or so....(HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA)
That stunt was widely reported in the Salinas Californian and you can see why I get an escort from the cops whenever I am in town...HOPEFULLY the warrants have expired by now.....
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always thought you had to go out to some place like Watsonville to get good "help." Or is that "service?"
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just cruise by the Aloha Motel in Salinas, on Kern St., between E. Market & E. Alisal. Plenty of service to be found in that neighborhood. Been working as a medic in Monterey County for 4 years now, and boy could I tell you some stories about this place... Wink Not as many as others, it sounds like!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

backcountrymedic wrote:
Just cruise by the Aloha Motel in Salinas, on Kern St., between E. Market & E. Alisal. Plenty of service to be found in that neighborhood. Been working as a medic in Monterey County for 4 years now, and boy could I tell you some stories about this place... Wink Not as many as others, it sounds like!

-Jared


I like medics. they usually have cold hands..... Wink

If you go over in front of Cowboy Hi, there are some burn off's in front of Jack In The Box that I put there in 1971 in a 64 Ply Fury with a 413 Wedge.....which became a shrine. Once the smoke cleared we were all out past Italian Villa heading back to the ghetto on 68.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

r39o wrote:
I always thought you had to go out to some place like Watsonville to get good "help." Or is that "service?"


You stay down there and guard that border...we reached our limit in mid January...

"Strawberry Fields fooooorever......" BUTT--- you are invited to the RED WHITE AND BLUE Beach north of Santa Cruz...clothing is not only banned it is considered Republican---so I can honestly say,,...."I've seen EVERYTHING" before I die!


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:17 pm    Post subject: thank you all. Reply with quote

so, weinerwagen, how do i say say thank you for summing up the necessaries of handling the situation. now that i have arrived and it is time to get work done, what am i in for? anyone who is looking for the answers to my question is certainly welcome to my collaboration.

considerations developed and in deliberation.....

high on life and jaming to ani)

be cool if you can, and if you can't...

what then?

me, i like to get out and try to find somewhere i can get back to zen

so i've given up tobacco as ydy i dropped a cherry through my carseat. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad "evil was not what my mind translated as-as"

what's the most powerful invocation you know?

(jenna)

i don't type well, me and my monkeyfingers. ; very A.DD tonight, but still trying gto get something accomplished...

"yes man, but at what cost!?"

credit where credit is due...
thank you officer.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

EXITSTRATEGY......judging from your last post I think you and Weinerwagen will get along like a house on fire!

Cryptic......... I love it!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Entrance Stratagy was my only plan. Exit is something the Dems do....

But in truths, I say hire it out......somethings are best left to the working class.... Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:21 am    Post subject: mechanics... Reply with quote

so, i have a business card from the guy, nathan, clutchless distance from the flying j truck stop in gilette wyoming. this is a good guy. works on the police fleet. didn't bat an eye at my dreads, had me back on the road for less than 50$ and approx 30min. replaced the slave cylinder mounting bolt with grade 8 sae bolt cranked down to not rattle loose. says the clutch seems fine, but that the plate is probably on the way out and that when the hydraulic goes do the whole system.

and mitchell south dakota, theres a tire place on the main drag, welded my purty kat back together for<50$ under an hour, first thing after breakfast saturday morning.

repairs all held up the add'l 14-ish hr drive to k ZOO, now the origional probable the exhaust rattle (yes the blown out seam in the muffler makes it sound cool, like a small-blockv8) ask me particulars if it's a sound you're into...

the shop by the highway and the big sky motel didn't fix my defroster this winter, but did do the requested below spec work on the exhaust...( not the muffler but the head gasket, tight on the not snapped bolt)..... lasted long enough for a quick fix i should've done myself, but, it's time again and i'd like to do it right.

I've heard good things recently about kurt from springvalley motors on mill? st k-z, and i've never had a bad experience with him, (BUT...) so i may be over there today to ask his opinion...\\

i'vd had the exhaust quoted, new stud and right with proper muffler, and repla'd muff mounts less 500$- ish depending....what ya'll think of that?

kz krx out
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:25 am    Post subject: sounds. Reply with quote

so this is also the old man's first foray into e- since school, AOL LOL, {jawa !

oh, how do i beconme a supporting member and do the picture thing if i don't even have a computer/conn?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Northern Cali. is beutifull country, I had a chance to spend time there a few years back. My old girlfreind and I hiked the Ventana Wilderness for 17 days.

Welcome to the site EXITSTRATEGY! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:26 pm    Post subject: Monterey good old boys Reply with quote

I just thought I would say "Hey" with all this Monterey conversation going on. Out in Carmel Valley driving my 91 Westy over the grade and living large. It's all good.
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