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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 6:52 am    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

Isn’t grey what you would expect on a mouse grey deluxe?
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 10:46 am    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

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If someone wants it nice there is not a single salvageable panel on there. It’s a total sheet metal replacement bus. Even most of the cross framing will have to go. If a guy can do it himself it’s worth doing since his labor doesn’t factor in. If you literally want a beater then the panels could be beaten and porta powered out to make it drivable.

Gee, I thought it looked quite nice, actually.
Everybody in the Porsche world worships Rod Emory. Rod has some mad skills at metal forming, fabrication and restoration. He got those skills from his grandpa and dad (Gary) and other metal bumpers and from VERY many hours of practice.
This car would be a good place to learn to metal finish.
Way too nice to cut up. If you want to save money on the resto, buy Brazil glass.
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

j.pickens wrote:
d-rick wrote:
EverettB wrote:
d-rick wrote:
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Of course it has value in either parts (bulkhead,steering box,steering wheel,bumpers,dash,etc) or yes someone could for sure rebuild it...will it be me..don't know... But sure it could be done. I found it while out on my route delivering some freight to a farm down the road. Asked the guy who the property owner was,got his # made contact and came back on my day off with a couple of dollars,truck,trailer w/ winch ,floor jacks,etc.
I am gonna see about pushing the roof out ,gutters are not bad.
No plans for now other than it's not rotting in that field anymore.


Since you posted that close-up photo, does the trim insert look grey to you in person?
Looks like it...

Yep, I does

I've seen colored inserts totally turn grey like that due to sun and weather.
Pull an end out of the slot and see what color the edges and underside of the plastic looks like. I'm betting on red.


I'll give it a look next time I'm off and out at my storage spot
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

campingbox wrote:
Isn’t grey what you would expect on a mouse grey deluxe?


I think '62s had red because they hadn't made Grey yet.

There was a big discussion about it a while back but I can't find the link again.
I know there is some talk here
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=174461
He said it's the darker red used on Titian Buses.
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 6:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

We put red in this original paint MG deluxe, thought it looked great with a little color.

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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 8:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

Somewhere floating in the gallery on this website is a vintage photo of a grey deluxe with red insert trim. It's on a beach with a dude in shorts and a little kid in a bathing suit. I failed to locate it....
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PostPosted: Thu May 06, 2021 10:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

It definitely pops better than the Grey.
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2021 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

Saw what I think was a PGSG northbound on US52, between Cannon Falls and Minneapolis, under its own power. Looked good, for the 2 seconds I saw it!
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2021 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

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Saw what I think was a PGSG northbound on US52, between Cannon Falls and Minneapolis, under its own power. Looked good, for the 2 seconds I saw it!

Hey, neighbor!
Let's hope their heater was working on this cool Saturday!
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2021 5:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

d-rick wrote:
j.pickens wrote:
d-rick wrote:
EverettB wrote:
d-rick wrote:
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Of course it has value in either parts (bulkhead,steering box,steering wheel,bumpers,dash,etc) or yes someone could for sure rebuild it...will it be me..don't know... But sure it could be done. I found it while out on my route delivering some freight to a farm down the road. Asked the guy who the property owner was,got his # made contact and came back on my day off with a couple of dollars,truck,trailer w/ winch ,floor jacks,etc.
I am gonna see about pushing the roof out ,gutters are not bad.
No plans for now other than it's not rotting in that field anymore.


Since you posted that close-up photo, does the trim insert look grey to you in person?
Looks like it...

Yep, I does

I've seen colored inserts totally turn grey like that due to sun and weather.
Pull an end out of the slot and see what color the edges and underside of the plastic looks like. I'm betting on red.


I'll give it a look next time I'm off and out at my storage spot


Is there an M-code plate? What is the build date?
Big dog legs, outie vents.....interesting
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2021 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

Alan Brase wrote:

Hey, neighbor!
Let's hope their heater was working on this cool Saturday!


From the half second glimpse I had across the freeway, I saw a dude seemingly having a good time, not freezing, as I would have been, IF I were not in my H2O cooled/heated '87, easily keeping up with 70MPH traffic... Ya, I know, VW's aren't supposed to have a water cooled system.. Oh well... Mrs. Black was enjoying the trip lazily watching Netflix in the back as I continuously wondered at every strange new sound my waterboxer made ... Grateful to be HOME!!
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2021 11:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

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10 kids , makes one wonder why there was not one that wanted that precious heirloom. Shocked Shocked Shocked


That was my first internal question. 9 kids remain, with a healthy amount of grandkids. One of the grandkids is actually one of those "Van Life" kids who travels the country in some sort of newer van. Surely you would think he would want to keep it.

I genuinely think the Grandmother/Widow simply figured that her kids and grandkids had plenty of time to lay claim to it and bring it back to life. Nobody did.

By no means was this one of those deals where the lady sold it for peanuts, she received a VERY generous offer which she accepted only after talking to the rest of her family. So her kids (who are all grown adults) and her grandkids (young adults) all had the opportunity to change her mind or step up to taking responsibility for it. She's very happy that someone local who is into old VW's will fix it and continue to take it on adventures and most importantly drive it.


What is the big deal with keeping the purchase price hush hush?? Just say it. Helps put the market in perspective.
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

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What is the big deal with keeping the purchase price hush hush?? Just say it. Helps put the market in perspective.


Institutionalized shamefulness. Either it's too low, and the buyer will get railed for "stealing" the bus from the family, or it's embarrassingly high, and the buyer will get shamed for paying so much for it.

It's a no win situation.
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 10:36 am    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

peecee69 wrote:
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What is the big deal with keeping the purchase price hush hush?? Just say it. Helps put the market in perspective.
Institutionalized shamefulness. Either it's too low, and the buyer will get railed for "stealing" the bus from the family, or it's embarrassingly high, and the buyer will get shamed for paying so much for it.

It's a no win situation.
It is all a matter of timing. You never pay too much, you just pay too soon. Conversely, super good deals are just yesteryear's pricing.

I have also found many people to be less than truthful on pricing, so you can't really trust what people say anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

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d-rick wrote:
j.pickens wrote:
d-rick wrote:
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d-rick wrote:
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Of course it has value in either parts (bulkhead,steering box,steering wheel,bumpers,dash,etc) or yes someone could for sure rebuild it...will it be me..don't know... But sure it could be done. I found it while out on my route delivering some freight to a farm down the road. Asked the guy who the property owner was,got his # made contact and came back on my day off with a couple of dollars,truck,trailer w/ winch ,floor jacks,etc.
I am gonna see about pushing the roof out ,gutters are not bad.
No plans for now other than it's not rotting in that field anymore.


Since you posted that close-up photo, does the trim insert look grey to you in person?
Looks like it...

Yep, I does

I've seen colored inserts totally turn grey like that due to sun and weather.
Pull an end out of the slot and see what color the edges and underside of the plastic looks like. I'm betting on red.


I'll give it a look next time I'm off and out at my storage spot


Is there an M-code plate? What is the build date?
Big dog legs, outie vents.....interesting


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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

j.pickens wrote:
d-rick wrote:
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d-rick wrote:
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

Of course it has value in either parts (bulkhead,steering box,steering wheel,bumpers,dash,etc) or yes someone could for sure rebuild it...will it be me..don't know... But sure it could be done. I found it while out on my route delivering some freight to a farm down the road. Asked the guy who the property owner was,got his # made contact and came back on my day off with a couple of dollars,truck,trailer w/ winch ,floor jacks,etc.
I am gonna see about pushing the roof out ,gutters are not bad.
No plans for now other than it's not rotting in that field anymore.


Since you posted that close-up photo, does the trim insert look grey to you in person?
Looks like it...

Yep, I does

I've seen colored inserts totally turn grey like that due to sun and weather.
Pull an end out of the slot and see what color the edges and underside of the plastic looks like. I'm betting on red.


Yep it was red for sure
Image may have been reduced in size. Click image to view fullscreen.

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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

Cool, thanks for the follow-up.
This adds some data to the fact that the early ones were red.
It looks like SWR too as opposed to the darker red used on later Titian Deluxe Buses and Barndoor Deluxes
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2021 6:49 am    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

Not really a "find" per se, but for someone with a lot of time and money on their hands.. have at it


https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/volkswagen/samba/2476412.html
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2021 7:14 am    Post subject: Re: Today in Bus hunting history... Reply with quote

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Not really a "find" per se, but for someone with a lot of time and money on their hands.. have at it


https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/volkswagen/samba/2476412.html

A lot of money for sure.. Starting with $34,500 for some numbers to build a new bus off of.. Holy Shit!
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Not really a "find" per se, but for someone with a lot of time and money on their hands.. have at it


https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/volkswagen/samba/2476412.html

A lot of money for sure.. Starting with $34,500 for some numbers to build a new bus off of.. Holy Shit!


Belongs in the whines thread.
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