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Mike Molzen Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2011 Posts: 10 Location: Rolla, Missouri
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Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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I bought a 60 gallon 220 volt upright air compressor from Harbor Frieght about 3 years ago to paint my Nissan Sentra. It ran all of my air tools including my HVLP, DA sander, and other high air consumption tools without a problem. It so happens that it is exactly like the Kobalt model sold at my local Lowes store for significantly cheaper price. I know that a lot of people think Harbor Freight tools are cheaper because many are made in China, but after all, almost all name brand tools are now made in China anyway. Also, I have not had any problems with this unit since I have owned it. I unfortunatly had a lady run a red light and total the car this January. The insurance adjuster commented on how nice the paint job was for the car's age (1999) he didn't realize it had been repainted. I hope this helps, Mike |
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Robertjm Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2011 Posts: 261 Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:39 am Post subject: |
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http://www.harborfreight.com/merchandising-promoti...67501.html
They have this on sale at Harbour Frieght this weekend. It has 125 PSI, but it doesn't list CFM.
Any thoughts (besides "if it's HF it's junk)? _________________ 1967 VW Double Cab Pickup
2003 Mercedes ML-500
1995 Saab 900SE Turbo Convertible (Crossed over into Valhalla April 2014)
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hpw Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2006 Posts: 3010 Location: memphis
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:51 am Post subject: |
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Air delivery: 4.5 SCFM @ 90 PSI, 5.5 SCFM @ 40 PSI |
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Robertjm Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2011 Posts: 261 Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks how. Couldn't be more obvious. _________________ 1967 VW Double Cab Pickup
2003 Mercedes ML-500
1995 Saab 900SE Turbo Convertible (Crossed over into Valhalla April 2014)
1972 VW Squareback (Autobahn in the Sky - July 1987) |
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hpw Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2006 Posts: 3010 Location: memphis
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Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Robertjm wrote: |
Thanks how. Couldn't be more obvious. |
Don't feel bad, I have done the exact thing and probably just about everyone on this site. |
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BusterBrown Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Folks,
I'm about to set up a 60 gallon, 5 HP compressor at my shop, and have a question that I don't see as having been addressed here before. What would you all recommend for an inline filter/dryer for general use? My intentions are to use air for grinding, cutting, polishing, air ratchet/tools, and yes, spray painting. In other words; a multitude of uses. I don't want to spend a fortune, and I see that Eastwood carries a few models in the $200-$400 range. Anybody know of a good source for a deal on a decent quality filter?
Thanks in advance! _________________ 1978 Sage Green Westfalia (Happy Trails, SOLD)
1977 Transporter
Life is short. Can I have some of yours? |
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odecom5 Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2006 Posts: 457 Location: CO
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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Looks like this thread is rarely responded to anymore, but I'll ask here for fear of making somebody angry by starting a new thread
Are there any compressors out there that are 110v that can handle an HVLP gun and some sanding?
I need to buy a compressor to do work on my bus, but a) I can't afford a professional body shop one that everybody demands you have if you are going to do any sort of body work, and b) it really isn't worth the money for occasional hobby usage to buy one of those... finally, c) my garage is not equipped with 220v, so that makes it even harder. The best I have found in my hours long searching seems to be this one: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00916474000P
It offers 7.2 SCFM @ 40psi, and 5.8 SCFM @ 90psi. I know this is below any of the 220v ones, however, the HVLP spray guns say they only require 5.1-5.5 on the ones that I have seen.
Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks! |
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Robertjm Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2011 Posts: 261 Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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I cannot speak to the quality, but the CFM certainly should cover it. Check out Craigslist, if you don't mind buying used. I ended up getting a Devilbis used for $150, which gives out 8.2 40 psi!
odecom5 wrote: |
Looks like this thread is rarely responded to anymore, but I'll ask here for fear of making somebody angry by starting a new thread
Are there any compressors out there that are 110v that can handle an HVLP gun and some sanding?
I need to buy a compressor to do work on my bus, but a) I can't afford a professional body shop one that everybody demands you have if you are going to do any sort of body work, and b) it really isn't worth the money for occasional hobby usage to buy one of those... finally, c) my garage is not equipped with 220v, so that makes it even harder. The best I have found in my hours long searching seems to be this one: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00916474000P
It offers 7.2 SCFM @ 40psi, and 5.8 SCFM @ 90psi. I know this is below any of the 220v ones, however, the HVLP spray guns say they only require 5.1-5.5 on the ones that I have seen.
Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks! |
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2003 Mercedes ML-500
1995 Saab 900SE Turbo Convertible (Crossed over into Valhalla April 2014)
1972 VW Squareback (Autobahn in the Sky - July 1987) |
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BusterBrown Samba Member
Joined: December 15, 2009 Posts: 1397 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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odecom5 wrote: |
Are there any compressors out there that are 110v that can handle an HVLP gun and some sanding? |
The HVLP spray gun isn't as much a problem with smaller compressors, but if using an air sander you'll find you really need a lot of air. With my Mirka 5" air sander working away, I find my 240 volt 20 gallon compressor just runs continuously. I think a unit powered on 110 would have trouble keeping up. Maybe someone with a differing experience will chime in. _________________ 1978 Sage Green Westfalia (Happy Trails, SOLD)
1977 Transporter
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 18022 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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You should be ok for painting, but should just buy electric sanders. _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
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'68 Karmann Ghia sold
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odecom5 Samba Member
Joined: July 17, 2006 Posts: 457 Location: CO
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Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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Mike Fisher wrote: |
You should be ok for painting, but should just buy electric sanders. |
Oh that was my other question... is there any real difference with electric random orbit sanders other than weight?
Thank you both for the insight! |
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vdubyah73 Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2003 Posts: 2541 Location: somewhere in Texas, my house has wheels
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 3:38 am Post subject: |
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if you have an electric dryer you can plug a single phase 220v compressor into the dryer outlet. _________________ burning down the house
73 bounty hunter, sold.
'77 transporter, junked had crotch rot.
Dubless, but have a CPR built stroker waiting for a new to me Beetle
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Kudagra Samba Member
Joined: March 22, 2007 Posts: 109 Location: Baldwin City KS. Just a wee bit South of KC
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Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2012 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Volksair.
I might have $500. But i'm a scrounger. I got my 60 gallon tank for free. I have a video of it running somewhere. Now that i'm moving my shop to a commercial area I can run it anytime of the night. Much to the displeasure of my soon to be neighbors i'm sure. _________________ But Mom...it followed me home! |
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volksgroove Samba Member
Joined: October 19, 2010 Posts: 239 Location: Apopka, FL
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:45 am Post subject: |
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odecom5 wrote: |
Looks like this thread is rarely responded to anymore, but I'll ask here for fear of making somebody angry by starting a new thread
Are there any compressors out there that are 110v that can handle an HVLP gun and some sanding?
I need to buy a compressor to do work on my bus, but a) I can't afford a professional body shop one that everybody demands you have if you are going to do any sort of body work, and b) it really isn't worth the money for occasional hobby usage to buy one of those... finally, c) my garage is not equipped with 220v, so that makes it even harder. The best I have found in my hours long searching seems to be this one: http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_00916474000P
It offers 7.2 SCFM @ 40psi, and 5.8 SCFM @ 90psi. I know this is below any of the 220v ones, however, the HVLP spray guns say they only require 5.1-5.5 on the ones that I have seen.
Any input is greatly appreciated. Thanks! |
From my experience, you need at least 20 cfm to handle steady use of most auto body sanders and paint guns. Especially when painting an all over job. However, a way around this with a smaller compressor is to work small areas at a time. HVLP guns still require lots of air volume to maintain a consistent pressure on a large job. Nothing will ruin a paint job faster than constantly having to adjust your air pressure at the gun halfway through a coat of clear. Most runs come from low air pressure and poor atomization of the paint droplets. In other words, not enough pressure and you are globbing larger droplets on vs fine particles of paint.
I have sprayed in all conditions, and if air is an issue break the job into smaller sections so you can maintain pressure for an entire coat, then let compressors charge back up between coats. And electric orbital sanders can work better than pneumatic if air volume is a problem. _________________ 1969 Riviera "Ethel"
1965 beetle father/son build
1988 Scirocco 16v father/son build |
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vdubyah73 Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2003 Posts: 2541 Location: somewhere in Texas, my house has wheels
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Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:03 am Post subject: |
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You can plug a 220v single phase compressor into an electric dryer outlet. _________________ burning down the house
73 bounty hunter, sold.
'77 transporter, junked had crotch rot.
Dubless, but have a CPR built stroker waiting for a new to me Beetle
'93 Fleetwood Bounder 34' |
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SoCalJes Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2011 Posts: 1093 Location: Broward, FL
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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Anyone ever work with a rotary screw compressors? Instant psi and cfm plus there is no tank, noise or pressure pulse. Not cheap but dream setup. _________________ Jesse
71 Ghia
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nice dad Samba Member
Joined: July 25, 2013 Posts: 317 Location: Honolulu, HI
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kman Samba Member
Joined: November 04, 2005 Posts: 739 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:48 am Post subject: |
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SoCalJes wrote: |
Anyone ever work with a rotary screw compressors? Instant psi and cfm plus there is no tank, noise or pressure pulse. Not cheap but dream setup. |
The shop I worked at had two of them. You can't get no better. |
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scottmc Samba Member
Joined: January 10, 2014 Posts: 197 Location: patchogue ny
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Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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So my original compressor state's 8@40 6.5 @90. With a 20 gallon tank. I want to tie a 26 gallon tank to it so the total will be 46 gallons. My other option is 46 gallons with the two tanks but the motor is 220 volts and the compressor is rated @ 9@40 7.5@90. Now the question is 220 v or 110v. I can go either way. I need to add more power to the garage anyways so which should I build. No Sanders or blast cabinets. I'm only looking for a good storage capacity for a hvlp. I already have the extra romex for 110 but if 220 is the way to go i don't care about the cost. |
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jpeters Samba Member
Joined: May 06, 2005 Posts: 1061 Location: Woodsfield, Ohio
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Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2015 7:50 am Post subject: |
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Anyone have any good recommendations for a 110v 60-80 gallon compressor? Budget isn't really an issue, but I'd like to be under $800 if possible. Mostly just needed for paint gun and impacts. Probably less for sanding, etc, but might use it for that if it can hold up.
I've read this thread several times over the last several years. Just wondering if anyone has any recent experience. _________________ '73 Westy
'68 Westy http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=484180
'65 Westy SO-42 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=435614
'66 Bug
'63 Bug (Big Bore 40hp)
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