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63 vwnotch Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2002 Posts: 764 Location: Riverside,CA Econo Motors
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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spook wrote: |
Don't paint a car with that |
couldn't disagree more...
I've painted plenty with these cheapo guns and they work just fine.... _________________ WANTED: 67 earlier Type 3 seats, Z rests |
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63 vwnotch Samba Member
Joined: December 31, 2002 Posts: 764 Location: Riverside,CA Econo Motors
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Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2016 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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here's a two stage ppg job done with the cheapo deapo HF purple HVLP...
so yeah I'd say they work just fine.. BTW the bus is single stage omni... _________________ WANTED: 67 earlier Type 3 seats, Z rests |
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Digger89L Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2013 Posts: 1130 Location: Western Canada (SK)
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:50 am Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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So ...what's that 'muffler-looking' thing in the rear passenger side wheelwell?? Muffler for a gas-heater??
Nice paintwork, BTW! _________________ "If you can't fix it with pop rivets, crazy glue and duct tape, or hold it together with zip ties, velcro or magnets, it REALLY is broken." |
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oldskool Samba Member
Joined: May 07, 2004 Posts: 49 Location: Temecula, CA
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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Charcoal canister for evap system. _________________ -chris
www.primer3d.com |
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Digger89L Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2013 Posts: 1130 Location: Western Canada (SK)
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Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2016 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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ah hah ....72 Super. Got it. Funny, on the earliers, like my 66, that had the gas heater mounted above the transmission (under the luggage pane), they had a straight pipe coming out there that was the exhaust pipe for the gas heater ....never saw one with a muffler, though. LOL
...there's a line you can string someone!! _________________ "If you can't fix it with pop rivets, crazy glue and duct tape, or hold it together with zip ties, velcro or magnets, it REALLY is broken." |
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Zebedee Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2003 Posts: 136 Location: Maenclochog, Wales
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 11:46 am Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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Just primed my bug in cellulose using this ancient Apollo turbine unit i borrowed off a friend in our local VW club:
Working in a small 18ft x 8ft garage the complete lack of overspray has been a godsend.
Will see what the topcoat comes out like but really happy with the finish on the primer especially as its my first attempt at spraying anything.
_________________ If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all. |
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Zebedee Samba Member
Joined: October 23, 2003 Posts: 136 Location: Maenclochog, Wales
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Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2016 12:12 pm Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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Topcoat comes out OK too.
Managed to paint it with no orange peel too. _________________ If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all. |
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DurocShark Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2004 Posts: 6635 Location: Crappy town in a crappy state. But the beach is nearby, so I have that going for me.
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2017 1:07 pm Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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Time for the annual check in!
I still have a perfectly good $30 HF HVLP turbine that I've been using for all kinds of stuff. I had hoped to paint the 64 with it, but SharkDaughter has other ideas...
We still have a few months before we get to that point, but at the moment she's settled on Kirker Pale Agave Metallic. And she wants white sides (we'll figure out which color white later). With a metallic I'm going to do two stage as well. http://www.autobodytoolmart.com/kirker-black-diamond-lvb-pale-agave-metallic-lvb-31264-p-17511.aspx
I've used Kirker single stage in the past, but not their two stage. However I've never sprayed metallics. The lack of different tips for this HF rig makes me realize I should invest in a better spray system.
So now I was looking at a Fuji kit, but a guy on another forum suggested I look at the Showtime 90: http://www.tptools.com/Showtime-90-HVLP-Turbine-Un...l?b=d*8049
Anyway, should be fun! _________________ No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. |
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Dubskii Samba Member
Joined: March 03, 2010 Posts: 385 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:30 am Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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Painting noob...Would a 3 gallon, 100psi pancake air compressor be able to sufficiently power the Harbor Frieght hvlp spray gun? I am looking to paint some replacement panels and just blend some paint. _________________ 69 Sunroof Deluxe - Montana Red/Cloud White (Sold)
57 Kombi - Dove Blue http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=648240
WTB Early Dove Blue Bus Driver's Side Door
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 18022 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:58 am Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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Start at the Beginning of this thread & learn what DurocShark etc have been discussing for 10 years. He says the HVLP turbine are cheapest & easiest to use. _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold
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DurocShark Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2004 Posts: 6635 Location: Crappy town in a crappy state. But the beach is nearby, so I have that going for me.
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Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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Mike Fisher wrote: |
Start at the Beginning of this thread & learn what DurocShark etc have been discussing for 10 years. He says the HVLP turbine are cheapest & easiest to use. |
I did break down and buy a TP turbine kit ($600) for the 64's tri-stage pearl that I'll get to actually do someday. _________________ No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. |
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dirtkeeper Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2008 Posts: 3241 Location: Left of everywhere
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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Dubskii wrote: |
Painting noob...Would a 3 gallon, 100psi pancake air compressor be able to sufficiently power the Harbor Frieght hvlp spray gun? I am looking to paint some replacement panels and just blend some paint. |
It’ll work in a pinch , you will just have to go slow and get your timing and pressure right.
What will happen is you may loose pressure as you spray and have inconsistent spray volume and pattern. This could be a problem on a large flat panel. Also because the compressor will run a lot and get hot water vapor may be a issue so have a filter.
Any way , I know it works cause I have sprayed some cabinets using a 3 gallon . Slow. |
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67ctbug Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2016 Posts: 3666 Location: CT
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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2018 11:26 am Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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I bought the purple HVLP gun and it worked out pretty good. Just wanted to have it for when I paint the fenders (and maybe the whole car)... I made a review of it for my YouTube channel too.
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Phat73 Samba Member
Joined: July 05, 2018 Posts: 95 Location: Victoria BC
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Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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Horse Hockey. Most of the posts on this thread are horse hockey. There is absolutely nothing wrong with using HF a cheapy gun. Is it as good as a Sata? Not even close. Will it do good job? Damn right it will.
A cheapy HF is certainly scraping the bottom of the barrel , a 150$ ProTec will work much better (which is what I use for base/clear) but a HF will do the job too.
It's like welders: in the right hands a 90$ HF flux core will do miracles, in the wrong hands a 2000 TIG machine will make a mess.
Buy a cheap gun and practice. Talk to the guys at the paint shop. The worst that can happen is you'll have sand out learning experience and do it again.
There are SO many other things to consider in a paint job the gun is pretty much the least of your worries. Having the courage to try is the key.
Fail early, fail often, fail forward.
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bomberbob Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2015 Posts: 728 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:38 am Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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I have not painted my car with the cheap HF turbine gun yet, but I will.
We replaced our steel front door on the house with a fiberglass one. The handyman who did the work said he would not paint it because they never come out right, and said take it to a place that paints cars. I bought the cheap turbine, did it myself. Came out fine. Started out with paint a little too thick, but I adjusted that. Will paint the car after all the rust is cut out and new metal welded in, in the spring. I am sold on the gun. _________________ 1968 Beetle torn apart again
1990 Jetta GLI megasquirted, burning E85 (currently in storage)
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72VWSB Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2018 Posts: 710 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:17 am Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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Ok, I would like to paint my vehicle with a turbine sprayer but, where do I get one nowadays that doesn't cost 400 to $500.00? |
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DurocShark Samba Member
Joined: April 05, 2004 Posts: 6635 Location: Crappy town in a crappy state. But the beach is nearby, so I have that going for me.
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72VWSB Samba Member
Joined: August 06, 2018 Posts: 710 Location: New Mexico
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:52 am Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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I have a hard time justifying buying a good turbine sprayer when I have a good compressor and can get a pretty good spray gun. I got a quote of 3000.00 from a auto body place to do the car, taken down to bare metal and doing inside doors, hood, etc... Seems like a better deal now... |
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Mike Fisher Samba Member
Joined: January 30, 2006 Posts: 18022 Location: Eugene, OR
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2019 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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I've had good results spraying BC/CC lacquer with a siphon gun.
No serious orange peel, so only needed a light machine buffing after a couple weeks.
You'll wait a year & nitpick what the painter does, so you might as well do it Right yourself.
Use a spot sand blaster to blast only the rust/bare metal before phosphoric acid rust killer & primer. _________________ https://imgur.com/user/FisherSquareback/posts
69 FI/AT square Daily Driver
66 sunroof,67,70,71,71,71AT,72,72AT,73 Parts
two 57 oval ragtops sold
'68 Karmann Ghia sold
Society is like stew. If you don't keep it stirred up you end up with a lot of scum on the top! - Russ_Wolfe/Edward Abbey |
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LEN-ABS Samba Member
Joined: April 15, 2019 Posts: 1 Location: Jersey
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: Just tried the HF HVLP sprayer.. UPDATED |
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dart451 wrote: |
I have a hard time justifying buying a good turbine sprayer when I have a good compressor and can get a pretty good spray gun. I got a quote of 3000.00 from a auto body place to do the car, taken down to bare metal and doing inside doors, hood, etc... Seems like a better deal now... |
If they are stripping off the old paint and applying a "good" acrylic urethane paint then the $3000 is a decent price. A gallon of good paint with hardener and reducer will probably cost over $1000.
Depending on the size of the vehicle you might get away with less than a gallon of paint but it's usually good to have some left over in case you need it down the road. |
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