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Peter_N Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: Rotisserie |
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Nice design Sgellis! And cool to share all the detailed building plans _________________ My 1958 PGSG project topic |
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Malokin Martin Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 3100 Location: E-burg
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Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 3:32 pm Post subject: Re: Rotisserie |
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Could you see if Everett would host the PDF here? It's rare that someone takes the time to write it out like that. |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69824 Location: Phoenix Metro
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j.pickens Samba Member
Joined: December 03, 2002 Posts: 9791 Location: Exit 7, New Jersey
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 1:25 am Post subject: Re: Rotisserie |
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Really nice. This design is perfect. The low profile dollies which can be moved to any of the flat angles are very cool.
When you rotate onto or off of the dollies, is there a way to stabilize or hold them in place?
That could be a delicate maneuver, especially if you are by yourself doing the rotating.
Also, did you add clamps to attach to the roof gutters? I would think that they would help stabilize things. _________________ Founder and Chairman Emeritus, ECMSAS
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sgellis Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2016 Posts: 2014 Location: SW Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:09 am Post subject: Re: Rotisserie |
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j.pickens wrote: |
Really nice. This design is perfect. The low profile dollies which can be moved to any of the flat angles are very cool.
When you rotate onto or off of the dollies, is there a way to stabilize or hold them in place?
That could be a delicate maneuver, especially if you are by yourself doing the rotating.
Also, did you add clamps to attach to the roof gutters? I would think that they would help stabilize things. |
Thanks!
I roll the bus up a little so the rollers will slide under part way. Let the bus back onto the roller and use my foot to push on the roller and pull on the frame to centre it. Easy once you get the hang of it. I always rotate from the rear frame. A stripped bus is not very heavy.
I didn't add anything to the drip rail. Front has lots of clearance, rear about 2". There is some bounce in the frame but not enough to hit the drip rail. Thought about adding some bracing to the inside of the loop to stop the flex but I don't notice it at all while working.
_________________ My 64 Kombi restoration
My camper interior build
My 54 standard restoration
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69824 Location: Phoenix Metro
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20278 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:19 am Post subject: Re: Rotisserie |
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This is 100% pure excellence. Well done! _________________ nothing |
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Malokin Martin Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 3100 Location: E-burg
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 6:59 pm Post subject: Re: Rotisserie |
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Could someone give me a bit of advice? We're about to take the plunge and remove the running gear.
1.) If we used 2.5 in. OD 0.105 thickness ROUND pipe for the rotisserie, are we loosing significant strength vs the same thickness SQUARE? (Same Half tipper version as the post directly above). Like should we be concerned with the round? My friend has a pile laying around he's willing to donate for free.
2.) if we're doing strictly the lower frame/flooring (underside only) would it be ok to use mild/low pressure sand? I know walnut is better, but it's bonkers more expensive.
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sgellis Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2016 Posts: 2014 Location: SW Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: Rotisserie |
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Malokin Martin wrote: |
Could someone give me a bit of advice? We're about to take the plunge and remove the running gear.
If we used 2.5 in. OD 0.105 thickness ROUND pipe for the rotisserie, are we loosing like significant strength vs the SQUARE? (Same Half tipper version as the post directly above). Like should we be concerned with the round? My friend has a pile laying around he's willing to donate for free.
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Should be fine. Just make sure the corrner are welded well. May be a bit bouncy (the one above is) but you can add a few braces to the inside if you like. _________________ My 64 Kombi restoration
My camper interior build
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glideking Samba Member
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Malokin Martin Samba Member
Joined: August 19, 2007 Posts: 3100 Location: E-burg
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: Rotisserie |
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Thanks for the replies folks! Appreciate it! |
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flemcadiddlehopper Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2011 Posts: 2332 Location: Kelowna, BC. Canada.
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:33 am Post subject: Re: Rotisserie |
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That is an excellent pdf of the tipper.
My only suggestion would be to make the very bottom section equal length to the uprights that attach to the frame. I know it makes it a bit harder to start the tip, but it makes it more stable when rolling.
Also, make the tipper pieces switchable from side to side, to give easier access for work on the passenger side rocker areas.
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sgellis Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2016 Posts: 2014 Location: SW Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Rotisserie |
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flemcadiddlehopper wrote: |
That is an excellent pdf of the tipper.
My only suggestion would be to make the very bottom section equal length to the uprights that attach to the frame. I know it makes it a bit harder to start the tip, but it makes it more stable when rolling.
Also, make the tipper pieces switchable from side to side, to give easier access for work on the passenger side rocker areas.
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The frames can be installed from either side. Notice the rear adaptor plates are bolted on so they stay on the bus when switching frame to other sides. _________________ My 64 Kombi restoration
My camper interior build
My 54 standard restoration
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The Nova Scotian Barndoor (CAD drawings) |
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flemcadiddlehopper Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2011 Posts: 2332 Location: Kelowna, BC. Canada.
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: Rotisserie |
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sgellis wrote: |
flemcadiddlehopper wrote: |
That is an excellent pdf of the tipper.
My only suggestion would be to make the very bottom section equal length to the uprights that attach to the frame. I know it makes it a bit harder to start the tip, but it makes it more stable when rolling.
Also, make the tipper pieces switchable from side to side, to give easier access for work on the passenger side rocker areas.
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The frames can be installed from either side. Notice the rear adaptor plates are bolted on so they stay on the bus when switching frame to other sides. |
So.....what's holding the bus while you switch the frame to the other side?
The plans I used from A Guy on Vancouver Island , the bus sits on a bedframe style section, while the tipper sides bolt to it, either side and the bus stays on the frame with wheels.
However, i like the side sections of your design as it allows the bus to go somewhat bottoms up. A support to the rain gutter would help support the bus while in that position.
gordo. _________________ Everybody Dies....Some Never Live.
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sgellis Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2016 Posts: 2014 Location: SW Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Rotisserie |
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flemcadiddlehopper wrote: |
sgellis wrote: |
flemcadiddlehopper wrote: |
That is an excellent pdf of the tipper.
My only suggestion would be to make the very bottom section equal length to the uprights that attach to the frame. I know it makes it a bit harder to start the tip, but it makes it more stable when rolling.
Also, make the tipper pieces switchable from side to side, to give easier access for work on the passenger side rocker areas.
Gordo. |
The frames can be installed from either side. Notice the rear adaptor plates are bolted on so they stay on the bus when switching frame to other sides. |
So.....what's holding the bus while you switch the frame to the other side?
The plans I used from A Guy on Vancouver Island , the bus sits on a bedframe style section, while the tipper sides bolt to it, either side and the bus stays on the frame with wheels.
However, i like the side sections of your design as it allows the bus to go somewhat bottoms up. A support to the rain gutter would help support the bus while in that position.
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I see what you mean. Yes I have to support the bus while switching sides. I had thought of making the uprights so they could be bolted to eather side of a lower u shaped frame. Seemed easier to just to jack up the bus to switch sides once or twice during the restoration than to build a more complex system. _________________ My 64 Kombi restoration
My camper interior build
My 54 standard restoration
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chgrec Samba Member
Joined: October 29, 2016 Posts: 103 Location: Fernandina Beach Fla
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 10:35 am Post subject: Re: Rotisserie |
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glideking wrote: |
.... Once the running gear is off it will be very light. ....
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Do you know how much just the body itself weighs?
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glideking Samba Member
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20278 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: Rotisserie |
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glideking wrote: |
I did not weigh it but I could lift each end by myself. It could not be much more than 600 pounds total.
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Was that before or after you replaced the missing metal (rust). _________________ nothing |
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glideking Samba Member
Joined: February 02, 2013 Posts: 990 Location: California
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Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:19 pm Post subject: Re: Rotisserie |
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Getting my homemade rotisserie ready for the next bus project today. I used to just drag the rotisserie around on the floor but I am getting older and I would like to roll it outside. This is a way to roll the rotisserie around the garage without a full cart in the way. Wheels for each ring independent from each other. Four of the eight wheels have a brake. They were $20 at Horrible Fright and rated at 450 lb. 8 inch wheel are large enough to roll over all those severed bits of rusty bus parts. I put the casters outboard keeping the rings close to the floor so it is still low enough to roll it outside the garage door. Now I can sandblast outside and roll it back in at night. I will keep a much cleaner garage this way.
Kurt _________________ "The more I get done the less it looks like I did anything"
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sgellis Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2016 Posts: 2014 Location: SW Nova Scotia, Canada
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