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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:57 pm    Post subject: Tell me about four door beetles Reply with quote

If this subject has been covered already, please just post a link and make the appropriate complaint about newbies...

I am interested in the story of the four door sedan beetles (a picture here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=282950 ). I have not seen any substantave information about them. When were they produced? In what quantity? How many are known about today? I always wondered why Volkswagen never produced a four door beetle, and then learned they (or someone) did. It is a very nice looking car, from what I have seen in pictures. Does anyone have more pictures (I found about five in the Samba gallery)?

I posted this in the split forum because there seem to be a much more favorable ratio of knowledgeable people to noise makers here than on forums for later cars. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rometch built the 4-door Taxi's with Volkswagen's permission. I believe only 5 are known to currently exist. Chris Morley's is the only one in the US and was found in Belgium. The Lotterman collection in Bad Camberg, Germany has two others.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This should really get you going. This is a sunroof (wonder if it is a 4 or 5 fold?) Zwitter model. I have no idea where the picture came from but would love to own it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, I'll bite. What is Morley asking for his?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:23 am    Post subject: 4 door sunroof Reply with quote

I'll bet it is a 3 fold clip, look how sits viz a viz the rear window , but made up of an extended 2 fold set of bows and mechanics - see the rounded rear corners on the mechanism ie 3 bows, one added.

The 3 fold clip takes 2 fold bows and mechanisms no sweat, at least the early 56/7 ones. I had a 2 fold mechanism that was dated early '55, had all the 3 fold mechanics ie 8 screws underneath etc except the loose top part which was rounded on the front.

Yes it would be great to get a history on this one.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oldnslow wrote:
This should really get you going.


Yes.

I'm now going to show my ignorance. What does Zwitter mean? Is that the late split with the oval dash? And I thought all split bugs came with one pea shooter exhaust tip, not two? Does anyone know if the quarter window swings open on these? The car has basically the same shape as my dad's '40 Ford four door sedan and the ability to open the quarter windows makes a big difference in comfort on that car.

What years were these produced? Is the front door stock length or has it been shortened?

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The front doors have been shortened and the rear doors are made from doors from the opposite side and flipped around and cut shorter at the hinge end. At least that is my understanding...
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:17 am    Post subject: 4 door Reply with quote

I would say that the sunroof and the engine arepost 55 additions, or at least the mechanism on the sun roof is post 55. You are right, the single was on all splits and early ovals. The twin exhausts come in in mid 55, or for the 56 model year.

Zwitter is a German combo or shortening from Zwischen : between.

The car could be a one off copy of the Rometsch taxi,Or the whole car could be a 3 fold zwitter done by rometsch, and updated over time for the engine and the bows and mechanics of the sunroof.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please tell me someone did not actually do this (about half way down the page):

http://www.flat4.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=67801&sid=8ea5cbd8127a7b217aa9b035aa39ce81
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yikes...doesn't look photoshopped to me....sad Sad
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats awesome
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yikes...doesn't look photoshopped to me....sad Sad


But it is Photoshopped trust me. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ya, that's photoshopped. I have picts of the car not photoshopped. Also I think there are 2 vintage makers of 4 door Beetles. One of them is in stock chassis length, the other (Rometsch) lengthened a little bit.

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A different view of that beater
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I wonder what this story is. This look stock length. I heard a shop or 2 in Mexico made conversions at one time or another also??
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yikes...doesn't look photoshopped to me....sad Sad


But it is Photoshopped trust me. Very Happy


Damn...had me fooled Embarassed Thanks. If there is anything that SHOULD be left stock, that is it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

STOCK hell no layed out on skirts and earlies Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

coad wrote:
OK, I'll bite. What is Morley asking for his?


Somebody should save that car and buy it off him..... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

53 0val wrote:
coad wrote:
OK, I'll bite. What is Morley asking for his?


Somebody should save that car and buy it off him..... Rolling Eyes


What!? And break up the display he has every year at Classic? That nitrous tank on the back of the kubelwagen sight gag of his just keeps getting funnier and funnier and funnier every single year.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok so i dug this thread up instead of starting a new one.

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is that rear fender tweaked to have a smaller curve radis than a stock bug?


or is it just an optical illusion?


and i read earlier in this thread that the chassis is stock then someone said it is stretched. well which is it?


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that didnt answer anything
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