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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Rick C looks like the paint has been removed from the ID tag on your distributor... could just be the anlge and lighting... |
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RickC Samba Member
Joined: August 04, 2001 Posts: 125 Location: Monterey County, CA
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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You know, it does look like that. The 383's, BR 8's, and BR 25's had 2 different types of tags. 1) the glossy black and aluminum and 2) a "galvanized" looking flat finish that was dull. This BR 8 has the dull finish. _________________ Rick Clark in Monterey County, CA USA
... where the surf is happening and the lightweights are standing on the beach, checkin' it out... |
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53 0val Samba Professor
Joined: July 03, 2003 Posts: 11396 Location: Irvine, CA
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Rick, your tins look to be semi gloss. '53 was gloss. I don't know about '54 but I think they were a gloss as well. _________________ "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do |
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tasb The Distributor Distributor
Joined: April 27, 2002 Posts: 6371 Location: Pentwater, Michigan
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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Are you sure about the two different tag finishes? I was thinking that when the distributors get rebuilt if they're soaked in solvent that the paint on the tag is removed. |
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spookymulder Samba Proletariat
Joined: January 02, 2004 Posts: 3298 Location: I'm either at 95608, 97537 or 94708 only my CPA knows for sure
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Posted: Sat Aug 19, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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Damn informative thread |
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RockStock Samba Member
Joined: November 26, 2004 Posts: 3929 Location: England
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:05 am Post subject: |
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Greg Armendariz wrote: |
a 54' Engine Complete |
no vacuum advance?
bus dizzy/carb? _________________ -StockRocks- |
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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69823 Location: Phoenix Metro
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RareAir Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 14577 Location: 18 miles North of the border
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:16 am Post subject: |
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53 0val wrote: |
Greg Armendariz wrote: |
a 54' Engine Complete |
And paint the generator nut while your at it. |
Boy Bob, you've pointed that out 3 times on this thread to 3 different people (Rick, Greg & myself). That must be the first detail you look for _________________ 1947 Typ 11a
1954 Typ 117
1956 Typ 151
1959 Typ 117
1959 Typ 265
1961 356B
1966 Typ 151
1966 Typ 241 |
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RareAir Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 14577 Location: 18 miles North of the border
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53 0val Samba Professor
Joined: July 03, 2003 Posts: 11396 Location: Irvine, CA
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Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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RareAir wrote: |
53 0val wrote: |
Greg Armendariz wrote: |
a 54' Engine Complete |
And paint the generator nut while your at it. |
Boy Bob, you've pointed that out 3 times on this thread to 3 different people (Rick, Greg & myself). That must be the first detail you look for |
You're lucky your not a Porsche.........It's the first thing I look at when I judge cars. Talk about obvious......how could you not notice. BTW the decal on the air cleaner is too low. It should split the upper section not the lower panel. You have to cut the decal so that it doesn't ride the ridge. The originals were smaller.......the repros have to be cut to be placed correctly. _________________ "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do |
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Greg Armendariz Samba Member
Joined: January 14, 2004 Posts: 60
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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OK, For starters I'll paint the Big Nut one day Bob. I believe the .010 is an accepted Distributor but would not be a "Factory" Distributor. The car is a 54' and I understand the decklid looks to be a 56-57 but the paint was the original color and at the time never questioned it. The Pink says the car is a 55' but the Body Tag is stamped 54'. I would have to guess without knowing the build date that this 54' of mine is a later 54' and maybe the newer Decklids were being used but that's just a guess. I really do love the criticism and yes Everett the tilted Regulator is correct according to Rich Kimball's Ovals Only Hand Book. The Aircleaner Decal I personally made and reproduce. I recreated the Decal from a Digital Pic that I took off of one of Todd Tesslers Cars which I know was an original Water Mark Decal.
Greg
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53 0val Samba Professor
Joined: July 03, 2003 Posts: 11396 Location: Irvine, CA
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Greg......I don't doubt that the decal is good, but it is in the wrong place. All the original early strap over filters I have seen have the original decal higher on the cleaner. (on the second tier not the first) My '53 VW has an original sticker and is mounted on that level. It also may have been that the next year VW put them somewhere else, it's just that I have not seen them mounted that low before.
Your tilted regulator is the result of the backing plate being off center......regardless of what Rich said in his book; which BTW is full of mistakes. _________________ "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do |
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volksvolgen Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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The engine looks beautiful. I do have a question though.
I noticed that the paint is burned off of the passenger side heat riser. This also happened to the engine in my '56.
Is it common for the heat riser on the passenger side to get significantly hotter than the one on the driver's side? Is this something I should worry about? |
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joe h. Samba Member
Joined: September 04, 2005 Posts: 782 Location: Seattle, Wa
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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I love this thread!
Greg, very nice engine. I look forward to the day I can post my '54 36'r to be inspected.
BTW, I still got that glass. |
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joe h. Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Volksvolgen, that was covered on page 2, by Rare Air. |
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53 0val Samba Professor
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Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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volksvolgen wrote: |
The engine looks beautiful. I do have a question though.
I noticed that the paint is burned off of the passenger side heat riser. This also happened to the engine in my '56.
Is it common for the heat riser on the passenger side to get significantly hotter than the one on the driver's side? Is this something I should worry about? |
Very common, and not a problem, except esthetically. _________________ "What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do |
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volksvolgen Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 3:00 am Post subject: |
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Oops. You're right, Joe. The heat riser issue was covered in detail on page two. I was too busy looking at the pictures to read the fine print.
This is one of the most informative threads I have come accross in a long time.
BTW, has anyone noticed that the generator nut is not painted??? |
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Brezelwerks Samba Member
Joined: March 17, 2003 Posts: 1421 Location: Tyngsboro, MA
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: |
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RareAir wrote: |
Here's the motor in my '54 sunroof. It is just about 100% correct except for the color of the distributor cap. If anyone sees something incorrect, please point them out & I'll rectify the problem.
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What month 54 is the car? Will determine if it should have either a BR2, BR3 or BR8 distributor. The 2's and 3's were used up to chassis #1-0702742 (engines also had dished pistons, and included different jetting specs on the 28PCI carb). You are clearly running a common BR8 since it has the vac advance. If the earlier 54 engines are rebuilt with flat pistons you can reuse the correct earlier 2 or 3 distributor however you have to use different timing specs.
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RareAir Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 14577 Location: 18 miles North of the border
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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Brezelwerks wrote: |
What month 54 is the car? Will determine if it should have either a BR2, BR3 or BR8 distributor. The 2's and 3's were used up to chassis #1-0702742 (engines also had dished pistons, and included different jetting specs on the 28PCI carb). You are clearly running a common BR8 since it has the vac advance. If the earlier 54 engines are rebuilt with flat pistons you can reuse the correct earlier 2 or 3 distributor however you have to use different timing specs.
Gary |
My car was built in the early part of December 1954. Dec 9th I think _________________ 1947 Typ 11a
1954 Typ 117
1956 Typ 151
1959 Typ 117
1959 Typ 265
1961 356B
1966 Typ 151
1966 Typ 241 |
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RareAir Samba Member
Joined: May 11, 2002 Posts: 14577 Location: 18 miles North of the border
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Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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volksvolgen wrote: |
This is one of the most informative threads I have come accross in a long time.
BTW, has anyone noticed that the generator nut is not painted??? |
According to Bob, it's supposed to be painted-
53 0val wrote: |
Your ignition coil strap should not be painted Glenn, and your generator nut should be |
RareAir wrote: |
53 0val wrote: |
And paint the generator nut while your at it. |
Boy Bob, you've pointed that out 3 times on this thread to 3 different people (Rick, Greg & myself). That must be the first detail you look for |
_________________ 1947 Typ 11a
1954 Typ 117
1956 Typ 151
1959 Typ 117
1959 Typ 265
1961 356B
1966 Typ 151
1966 Typ 241 |
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