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jmfoust Samba Member
Joined: February 01, 2005 Posts: 130 Location: Des Moines, Iowa
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:44 am Post subject: Coolant pressure tester |
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Has anyone had any luck with renting a coolant system pressure tester from a flaps? Autozone rents tools, but since my 83 westy doesn't use a standard coolant cap, I'm curious as to whether they would have an adaptor that just screws on like the blue cap. I'm asking here first because the counter jockey doesn't speak the best english and has never heard of a Vanagon.
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riceye Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2006 Posts: 1661 Location: Caledonia, WI
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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Pressure tester connects to nipple on the cap of the pressurized reservoir to the left (looking from the rear) of the refill tank.
The cap on this tank will hold up to 15 psi going out of the system, but there is another valve in the cap that allows coolant to move into the system from the fill tank when the engine cools. Otherwise the radiator would collapse.
Inflate with something like a bicycle pump. A compressor will send too much air too fast. If there is no air in the system you may only need to pump a couple of times. 12 psi should be sufficient to find leaks.
Regards,
Ric _________________ '87 Westy Weekender - daily driver on salt-free roads
There's gonna be some changes made.
“I find that things usually go well right up until the moment they don't.” - Ahwahnee
"Quality isn't method. It's the goal toward which the method is aimed." - Socrates, later quoted by R.M. Pirsig |
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buspor63 Samba Member
Joined: February 17, 2005 Posts: 1179 Location: Knoxville,TN Where America stops for gas
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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riceye wrote: |
Pressure tester connects to nipple on the cap of the pressurized reservoir to the left (looking from the rear) of the refill tank.
The cap on this tank will hold up to 15 psi going out of the system, but there is another valve in the cap that allows coolant to move into the system from the fill tank when the engine cools. Otherwise the radiator would collapse.
Inflate with something like a bicycle pump. A compressor will send too much air too fast. If there is no air in the system you may only need to pump a couple of times. 12 psi should be sufficient to find leaks.
Regards,
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Can we just connect the bike pump hose to the nipple and watch the gauge? Did I read that correct? _________________ Imagine that, theres not an "h" in either Westfalia or Syncro? |
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riceye Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2006 Posts: 1661 Location: Caledonia, WI
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:13 am Post subject: |
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Only if there is no leakage between the cap and the pump. The pressure valve in the cap will keep the system pressure from reading on the gauge. The vacuum valve will be closed after the air is pumped in. Squeezing the hoses will give you a reasonable idea of system pressure.
Don't over pressurize!
Regards,
Ric _________________ '87 Westy Weekender - daily driver on salt-free roads
There's gonna be some changes made.
“I find that things usually go well right up until the moment they don't.” - Ahwahnee
"Quality isn't method. It's the goal toward which the method is aimed." - Socrates, later quoted by R.M. Pirsig |
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Terry Kay Banned
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:41 am Post subject: |
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Going through the cap nipple for a pressure test isn't the right way to do the job.
You'll have to come up with a tank cap adapter.
I have the correct Snap-On adaptor just for this job.
If you want the tool number I'll get it outa my tool box and get it for you tonight.
The pressure tester from the "Zone" is the right way to go--but you'll need to use the right expansion tank adaptor to get the proper pressure into the system ( and hold it) to test it right. _________________ T.K. |
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jmfoust Samba Member
Joined: February 01, 2005 Posts: 130 Location: Des Moines, Iowa
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:18 am Post subject: |
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I'm also thinking of pulling a vacuum on the system to around 10-12 lbs. I can see the bubbles run into the pressure tank while runs, so I'm really just trying to confirm a bad head gasket and which side it's coming from. I'm probably wasting my time and just need to do both heads.
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riceye Samba Member
Joined: March 09, 2006 Posts: 1661 Location: Caledonia, WI
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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I'm also thinking of pulling a vacuum on the system to around 10-12 lbs. |
Don't pull a vacuum on your cooling system. It is designed to handle pressure, not vacuum. This can damage components, particularly the radiator.
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Going through the cap nipple for a pressure test isn't the right way to do the job. |
I didn't say this was the right way to pressure check your system, but it does work. You have to be careful.
Myself, I own a kit.
Regards,
Ric _________________ '87 Westy Weekender - daily driver on salt-free roads
There's gonna be some changes made.
“I find that things usually go well right up until the moment they don't.” - Ahwahnee
"Quality isn't method. It's the goal toward which the method is aimed." - Socrates, later quoted by R.M. Pirsig |
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jmfoust Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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vacuum is pressure - negative pressure. If a radiator can't handle 10 lbs. of vac., it can't handle 10 lbs of positive pressure. Pulling a vac will only collapse the rubber hoses. |
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riceye Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:27 am Post subject: |
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Go ahead and pull the vacuum. Its your radiator!
That is why they put the vacuum relief valve in the cap. This has been the standard since before overflow tanks. Even rubber hoses handle positive pressure, but collapse under negative (vacuum) pressure. Rubber bounces back. Metal does not.
Regards,
Ric _________________ '87 Westy Weekender - daily driver on salt-free roads
There's gonna be some changes made.
“I find that things usually go well right up until the moment they don't.” - Ahwahnee
"Quality isn't method. It's the goal toward which the method is aimed." - Socrates, later quoted by R.M. Pirsig |
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