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maxcrucial
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:22 am    Post subject: 84 vanagon fuel pump Reply with quote

hi,
what is the pressure of vanagon fuel pump? gph ect?
i need a fuel pump but cant afford new one......
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

go to napa and buy one for a ford pickup that is mid 80's and has fuel injection ......im using one for an 87 f150 works great
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been here?

http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=043906091

Not a Bosch unit @ $160 but some folks have had good cluck with them.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have noticed my pump getting louder and louder...maybe I should get one of those Bosch units...160 is not bad if it will last for another 20 years!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

first change your fuel filter....it'll make your pump sing.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That singing is "cavitation" coming from a reduced flow through the pump.

First change the fuel filters and then measure the fuel pressure you are putting out as per your Bentley manual.

About 98% of the fuel it pumps is circulated through the fuel system and keep the pump cool. It you touch it running it will always be cool.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just changed the filter a couple hundered miles ago but the van did sit awhile so there might be some crap in the tank that is coming out now that I am driving the van again.

Looks like I will have to pull out the old Bently...

Oh you said "filters", I wasn't aware that I had more than one...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do a good deed to your volksie put a filter between the tank and the pump it catches the crap coming out of the tank
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry about the thread-jack but my filter is just before the pump after the tank...where are yours?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At some point they went from having a square white plastic filter (gravity) right before the tank to aslo having a metal one (high pressure) after the pump.

Cut your old one open and see what it looks like in there. Full of rust and/or black crud?

Everyone has at least one filter and some people have 2.

I noticed billybobs 86 had 2 when it was over here the other day.

Cars that sit around with dead gas tend to get all munged up in the tanks, filter, pump, lines, injectors and fuel pressure regulators.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FLAPS states 87 f150 has front and rear tank pumps, also is it from the 302 or the V6?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:00 pm    Post subject: fuel pumps Reply with quote

I, too, need a new fuel pump, I think, and I have also heard people say that you can use one for a Ford pick-up, as well as an Escort. I have been wondering what the difference is between these and one designed for a Vanagon. When you go to Autozone or Parts Plus online, and look for a generic brand fump for a Vanagon versus a Ford, they do list a different part number, so there must be some difference. Is it size, pressure, or what.

But if you do get one from the Ford, you want the one after the tank. There is an in-tank one and an after-tank one. The one after the tank is the style that Vanagons need. The lowest price I've seen for the Ford is about $75, and Bus Depot has the Vanagon one for $100.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 5 spares, therefore mine has naver failed. Nothing like a spare to ward off evil.
Speaking of spares, carry at least:2 gall coolant,5 q oil,filter,ALT, 2 sets belts,fuel pump and filter,brake fluid,hall chip(if you have one),ECU,flash light and a FIRE EXTUNGUISHER. Don't forget a deadacated tool set.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

btlbugtyp1 wrote:
go to napa and buy one for a ford pickup that is mid 80's and has fuel injection ......im using one for an 87 f150 works great


is the pump you are using

http://www.napaonline.com/masterpages/NOLMaster.as...Line+Type)
or is it this
http://www.napaonline.com/masterpages/NOLMaster.as...Line+Type)

how do you enfore the string as http url Sad
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Links suck!
Called O'Reillys and they had the v6 inline electric for 69.99 for an 87 f150. They guy was like why use it for VW just use the vw one. I said you prob dont have it. He checked.. WE GOT IT.. I said oh yeah, how much.. DUHHH 219.99
Ouch
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just bought one from a regular seller here on the Samba. They are New old stock Bosche Pumps for $145 shipped. No wire end changes or hose fitting to deal with. Just take the old one out and clamp the new on in place. The Pump is the same as the one the local VW dealer wanted me to hand them $396.00 to take it home with me. In the classifieds search for fuel pumps and you will find it. The pump that just failed on me was the original pump from 1985, so this one should last for a while.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:17 am    Post subject: Fuel pump relay Reply with quote

How does one know which relay is the fuel pump and which is the ignition I am trying to replace an 84 vanagon fuel pump relay
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 8:15 pm    Post subject: fuel pump replacement Reply with quote

I am wondering if I have to replace the clamps going around the lines when replacing the fuel pump? And should I just clamp the line when the pump off to stop the fuel from pouring out?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd look at condition and type of the clamp. I do not care for the 'cheese grater' type of clamp which can nick the hose. I do like the type usually sold for fuel injection though the pre-pump lines aren't under a lot of pressure. I have never used the 'crimp' style but some say those are the best.

Yes you can clamp the lines to stop fuel -- I use a pliers device especially made for that purpose. Years ago I would use a C-Clamp and a couple of pieces of wood which worked okay.

If your tank is close to empty this would be a good time to drain it and then you can also change the line from the tank to the pump.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No and yes.
Personally I prefer new clamps with new work - they're cheap.

Vise grips will do in a "pinch" to clamp the lines. Wrap the jaws with tape to keep from damaging the hose.
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