Author |
Message |
crofty Judas of the North
Joined: August 09, 2000 Posts: 19672 Location: Land of Whine and Phonies
|
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:14 am Post subject: Generator brush covers |
|
|
Anyone have a source for them? I need a pair for a 38amp gen. _________________ Your Vanagon sucks, Stop waving at me.
HamburgerBrad wrote: |
I slept on crofty's tent once. I passed out drunk from two bottles of Everett's brother's wine. |
|
|
Back to top |
|
|
Desertbusman Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2005 Posts: 14655 Location: Arizona
|
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:42 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Most VW parts houses have them. Last one I bought was from AirHead Parts. Supposidly the same one fits all the gens. Just went to try it on my 38A gen and now can't find it. Not sure what the real ticket is but I only use them on the top slot. Thinking that with the bottom open the gen will get better internal cooling. And I havn't had problems with nuts and bolts falling upwards. _________________ 71 Superbug
71 Westy |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Desertbusman Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2005 Posts: 14655 Location: Arizona
|
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:33 am Post subject: |
|
|
Just finished rebuilding my 38amp generator tonight. Found the lost cover and went to put it on. No Way! The openings are much shorter than the cover. The cover is the 111-903-531 that everyone sells and is supposed to fit a bus gen. My bus gen is a 211-903-031-D 38A and the opening is 2-7/16" long. The cover is the same one that fits my bug which is a 30A. Didn't measure a 30A gen, but the opening probably is around 3/4" longer. _________________ 71 Superbug
71 Westy |
|
Back to top |
|
|
steponmebbbboom Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2004 Posts: 6390
|
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:41 am Post subject: |
|
|
Those plastic covers are goddamn pieces of crap. Even if they did fit they would block airflow and melt when the gennie got hot and start a fire.
The only cover I ever saw that made any sense was on a Beetle and was a single wraparound steel one with round cooling holes in it. If you want something like that go to a shop that rebuilds electric motors and find one that fits.
that said, someone have a factory photo of a new one? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Desertbusman Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2005 Posts: 14655 Location: Arizona
|
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:39 am Post subject: |
|
|
steponmebbbboom wrote: |
Those plastic covers are goddamn pieces of crap. Even if they did fit they would block airflow and melt when the gennie got hot and start a fire.
|
Yea, that's the way to tell it
like it isn't.
8 years, run daily, no problem. Maybe they only work in cold climates like the Arizona desert where everything in the engine compartment stays nice and cool. And it has paid off to use one. When the carb fitting blew out, pumped directly onto the generator and didn't ignite. Woops, the cover didn't start a fire, it prevented one.
But I surely wouldn't put a cover on the bottom opening. The cooling air thru the generator from the fan needs an exit path. _________________ 71 Superbug
71 Westy |
|
Back to top |
|
|
steponmebbbboom Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2004 Posts: 6390
|
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 7:40 am Post subject: |
|
|
How is that plastic cover going to keep gas out? Gasoline has no surface tension and creeps through the tiniest cracks.
Where did you get your covers from? I have the same fitment issues with my covers I bought years ago that everyone else seems to. Theyre too goddamn big. Got a part number and/or source? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Desertbusman Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2005 Posts: 14655 Location: Arizona
|
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The p/n I gave is the one that supposidly fits everything acording to all the suppliers. Undoubtably it doesn't fit a 38A. But it does fit a 30A great. Which is also the gen that suppliers seem to have listed for the bus. And probably about everyone that has replaced a bus gen has ended up with a 30A.
Why were you trying to install a cover if you thought it was going to start a fire? If you were attempting to install 2 covers they probably would have blocked off the internal forced air cooling. _________________ 71 Superbug
71 Westy |
|
Back to top |
|
|
steponmebbbboom Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2004 Posts: 6390
|
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:58 am Post subject: |
|
|
I just tried to install one and got pissed off. They now sit in the utensil drawer of my combo cabinet. Five bucks and theyre yours!!! |
|
Back to top |
|
|
pyrOman Fire Master
Joined: July 21, 2003 Posts: 12402 Location: Over 2002 posts deleted!
|
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:47 am Post subject: |
|
|
As with EVERYTHING else in the fatchick forum, been discussed and re-discussed at least umpteenth times. But the last reasonable response was as mentioned above, having the top cover on but not the lower one.
Step, are you sure you are attempting a proper install? From my experience they snap right in but one way only since the "legs" are off-set. _________________ Some people are so busy being clever they don't have time enough to be wise. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
steponmebbbboom Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2004 Posts: 6390
|
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:07 am Post subject: |
|
|
As mentioned the slots are different between the 30 and 38 amp gennie.
When was this last discussed? |
|
Back to top |
|
|
Desertbusman Samba Member
Joined: June 03, 2005 Posts: 14655 Location: Arizona
|
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject: |
|
|
steponmebbbboom wrote: |
I just tried to install one and got pissed off. They now sit in the utensil drawer of my combo cabinet. Five bucks and theyre yours!!! |
I still don't understand why you attempted to install one if you think they are so harmful and have no purpose. I just shortened mine to fit.
Five bucks? They're 1.95 here. _________________ 71 Superbug
71 Westy |
|
Back to top |
|
|
steponmebbbboom Samba Member
Joined: May 01, 2004 Posts: 6390
|
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:34 am Post subject: |
|
|
Because I had owned my bus for about three weeks at the time. I now know better.
The wraparound steel one will keep foreign objects out of the brush slots without impeding airflow. Nothing will keep gasoline out except maybe a piece of rubber sheeting but then you have blocked airflow through the slots. You like em, roll em! Im not about to do a chop job on one to get it in when there are better covers available if one knows where to look. |
|
Back to top |
|
|
ncstagger Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2010 Posts: 284 Location: Fayetteville, NC
|
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
I just got a pair of these plastic covers to go on a 30A. They dont really fit all that great but I was able to get them on.
Haven't decided yet if I'll keep them, I think if I do I'm just going to run the top one. _________________ 71 Westy Tintop - 1600 DP 34PICT3/009 - Pastel White
Resto thread here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=549162
"Take your most realistic time frame and dollar amount.. then add half of that amount. When you get that total... double it. Only then will you be in the ballpark." - sofaking |
|
Back to top |
|
|
old DKP driver Samba Member
Joined: March 30, 2005 Posts: 4145 Location: Los Gatos,Ca.
|
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:42 pm Post subject: generator brush cover |
|
|
That's cool that you found the UPPER only generator brush cover
and now you have an extra one too.
There is only 1 upper cover to keep stuff from falling into the generator.
Never was 111 903 531 installed on the bottom.
It shouldn't even fit if your gen. is installed right. _________________ V.W.owner since 1967 |
|
Back to top |
|
|
SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
|
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 10:52 pm Post subject: |
|
|
400,000 miles without them. Guess I was a lucky guy. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
|
Back to top |
|
|
ncstagger Samba Member
Joined: June 04, 2010 Posts: 284 Location: Fayetteville, NC
|
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:11 pm Post subject: Re: generator brush cover |
|
|
old DKP driver wrote: |
That's cool that you found the UPPER only generator brush cover
and now you have an extra one too.
There is only 1 upper cover to keep stuff from falling into the generator.
Never was 111 903 531 installed on the bottom.
It shouldn't even fit if your gen. is installed right. |
Well that makes sense, I didn't see a reason for having one on the bottom.
Interestingly, the cover fits more securely in the bottom. But looking carefully at it, the inner pulley piece would probably rub on it. _________________ 71 Westy Tintop - 1600 DP 34PICT3/009 - Pastel White
Resto thread here: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=549162
"Take your most realistic time frame and dollar amount.. then add half of that amount. When you get that total... double it. Only then will you be in the ballpark." - sofaking |
|
Back to top |
|
|
bigbore Samba Member
Joined: December 19, 2003 Posts: 3296 Location: Wasilla Alaska
|
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:34 am Post subject: |
|
|
In all my years of working on vw's and that go's back into the 70's I have never seen one on a 38 amp and I have never seen the need. _________________ where its cold and snowy |
|
Back to top |
|
|
|