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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 1:47 pm    Post subject: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

Hello everybody! This weekend I started redoing the upholstery in my van (thank you Sewfine!) but I am experiencing an issue with the cushions on the rear bench not sitting flush together. I am hoping this is just an issue with the seat brackets being misaligned but I am wondering if anyone else has experienced this and if you have any guidance. I would appreciate it!
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

I redid my 86 weekender with SewFine.
I have no memory of that gap, tight or open.

I do remember the grandchildren dropping boatloads of crap through that gap however!

Does it fit snug in the bed position? That is what really matters.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

Here is a photo of my 86, sadly, not the best angle for viewing the gap you are concerned about,

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 5:37 am    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

not being fastened down I'd wager the hinges aren't fully 'seated' or relaxed
one being slightly sprung compared to the other.

should align once bolted into the van.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:39 am    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

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not being fastened down I'd wager the hinges aren't fully 'seated' or relaxed
one being slightly sprung compared to the other.

should align once bolted into the van.


Good point!
The backrest requires the rests on the side panels for support!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 6:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies! I will get the bench fully installed in the van and see if that corrects the issue. Will follow up with more pics.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

So, just curious - do you have any pictures of it before you started the job? By that, I'm trying to determine what the seat looked like before.

And again to help understand - are you replacing just fabric, or did you get new foam or make other changes?

I ask because that looks like a pretty significant gap and it's also pretty significantly misaligned. Without either you saying "It was a tight gap and perfectly aligned left to right before", then something seems off.

If your history turns out to be "I bought the empty frame and I've made my own backrest wood" then I'd have other thoughts and so might others. So a little background or history might be nice. Also, it kind of looks like you're completely done with this seat?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

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Here is a photo of my 86, sadly, not the best angle for viewing the gap you are concerned about,

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Hey Dave, that goes well with the OEM panels. What's that fabric called?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:27 am    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

zmvanagon wrote:
Hello everybody! This weekend I started redoing the upholstery in my van (thank you Sewfine!) but I am experiencing an issue with the cushions on the rear bench not sitting flush together. I am hoping this is just an issue with the seat brackets being misaligned but I am wondering if anyone else has experienced this and if you have any guidance. I would appreciate it!
Thanks!

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Hi, we're looking at seat covers to replace the shredded corduroy. Can you tell me what the colour is called?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:10 am    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

IdahoDoug wrote:
So, just curious - do you have any pictures of it before you started the job? By that, I'm trying to determine what the seat looked like before.

And again to help understand - are you replacing just fabric, or did you get new foam or make other changes?

I ask because that looks like a pretty significant gap and it's also pretty significantly misaligned. Without either you saying "It was a tight gap and perfectly aligned left to right before", then something seems off.

If your history turns out to be "I bought the empty frame and I've made my own backrest wood" then I'd have other thoughts and so might others. So a little background or history might be nice. Also, it kind of looks like you're completely done with this seat?


Yes both the cushions and the fabric have been replaced. Prior to replacing performing this work there was no gap. The whole bench seat assembly was removed from the van and was assembled outside of the van. I think the fabric is misaligned but the cushions were centered when I glued them in place.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:12 am    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

Jake, the color is called "espresso"
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

I experienced this gap with the Wolfy Camper jumpseat same vintage.
The new foam from SewFine wasn't the exact right dimensions.
It is pretty annoying when things like cell phones can easily drop into the crack.
The seat looks great otherwise.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2021 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

crazyvwvanman wrote:
I experienced this gap with the Wolfy Camper jumpseat same vintage.
The new foam from SewFine wasn't the exact right dimensions.
It is pretty annoying when things like cell phones can easily drop into the crack.
The seat looks great otherwise.

Mark


That is disappointing to hear. Did Sewfine say anything about the foam being to incorrect specifications? When I picked up the foam I compared it to the original foam and it was a couple inches too short which they were able to correct but otherwise the foam was the same size.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 5:02 am    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

My 86 had the same shedded corduroy.
The foam was icky and discolored.

I removed the foam, soaked it repeatedly with a deodorizing spray and laid them in the Sun for days on end, natures natural freshening agent!
Zero lingering smells.
Saved $$’s on new foam too!
Foam varies so greatly in softness that I didn't want to start mixing up weights and end up with a bed of uneven firmness.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 12:59 pm    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

I see it's not perfect, but really darn nice. I notice the picture of the seat prior that the bolsters on the passenger side also don't seem to align back to bottom.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

Jake de Villiers wrote:
djkeev wrote:
Here is a photo of my 86, sadly, not the best angle for viewing the gap you are concerned about,

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Hey Dave, that goes well with the OEM panels. What's that fabric called?



I used Earth Tweed and Van Tan Vinyl.

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It's a Rainy Day, I've got my Sewfine upholstery Samples and am sitting in the Van having a big think and contemplating the options not only of color but fabric price breaks. The nicer stuff IS NICER but drives the prices up. I'm weighing that against a projected use of maybe three (3) weeks per year?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:30 am    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

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Jake, the color is called "espresso"
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:33 am    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
Jake de Villiers wrote:
djkeev wrote:
Here is a photo of my 86, sadly, not the best angle for viewing the gap you are concerned about,

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Hey Dave, that goes well with the OEM panels. What's that fabric called?



I used Earth Tweed and Van Tan Vinyl.

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It's a Rainy Day, I've got my Sewfine upholstery Samples and am sitting in the Van having a big think and contemplating the options not only of color but fabric price breaks. The nicer stuff IS NICER but drives the prices up. I'm weighing that against a projected use of maybe three (3) weeks per year?
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Hmmmmm. It looks more like the 'Natural' to me. 'Earth' is pretty dark.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:33 am    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

Quick update! Got the bench and the jump seat installed in the van. There is still a gap in-between the bench cushions and there is also a gap in-between the jump seat cushions. This is disappointing but the new upholstery looks damn good otherwise.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: 1986 Vanagon Weekend Rear Bench Seat Assembly Issues Reply with quote

I wonder, did you make the covers too tight as you stapled it, compressing the foam?

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