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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:59 pm    Post subject: 1600 w/ 40s... Jets/ Venturies? Reply with quote

I am about to help a friend install a set of Italian Weber 40s on a stock 1600 DP, with 009. I am asking for a good place to start as far as jets, venturies, and anything else you may want to add. I think that this setup is overkill for this engine, but it is his choice. Can we make this work? I am not sure what jets/ venturies are installed at this point.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tweaked mine for a while, and ended up with:

32mm vents
F11 emulsion tubes
50 idles
125 mains
200 airs
floats around 10mm

Mine are old Italian ones, without vacuum. Came with chokes, I blocked them off. I'm at sea level.

Here's one of my posts while tweaking them:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=182665&highlight=

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not overkill, they work great on 1600cc if set-up and tuned correctly.

Try 28mm vents, 115-120 mains, F-11 Emulsion tubes, 200 airs, 50 idles and tune from there...
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget proper fuel pressure.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Proper fuel pressure being what?

I know that currently there is a mechanical fuel pump installed, but can be swapped out for an electric one. Kads take 2 1/2 psi, what is required for Webers? Guess we will have to get a regulator too.

Stan, that link is awesome!!! Thank you. Between yours and RIS reccomendations.... we will have a good head start.

I know that this is somewhat related... Stan, what mileage do you get, and overall, anyone else (RIS, etc) what mileage are you getting.

RIS, I agree that these carbs are not overkill if tuned correctly, hence venturie/ jet changes before the carbs are installed. When working in 112 deg heat, we want to be ahead of the game, before we melt.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about an 1835cc , two 44s, and a stock twin pea shooter muffler... can this be done???
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tom Newpher wrote:

I know that currently there is a mechanical fuel pump installed, but can be swapped out for an electric one. .


Webers need 3psi or less. You don't need an electric pump, the stock mechanical pump will more than suffice.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to be careful with Italian carbs. If you have a dead or weak spot around 1/4 throttle (2500 RPM range-ish), that you cannot get rid of even if your floats are right, and your jets are right, there's a chance that the idle air bushings are oversized. It happens more on the 36 IDFs, but it can be the case here too. Check this:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=177232
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mileage.. hard to say, I never measured it. This is my play car, and not daily driven. It seems the mileage with the Webers was close to, if not better then what I was getting with the single 34PICT. It's hard not to step on the gas though.. Currently, the engine is out for maintenance Wink

Oh yeah, my fuel pressure is at 3.5psi, measured.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, mine started out as maintenance too Stan. Be careful. A few slips with the wrench and your case will be apart! lol
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I already replaced the transaxle mounts, which was the original reason for taking the engine out.

I want the case to be apart! All of the top-end stuff is off and has been cleaned thoroughly already. Now I'm stuck because I can't get the gland nut off.. Plans are to replace all bearings, put in a Web 118 and new lifters, lighten the flywheel to 12 pounds, 8-dowel my stock crank and flywheel. I'd appreciate any suggestions or comments.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan,

http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=ACC%2DC10%2D7036

That'll get it off.
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