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choup Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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I have sourced the correct printed dot headliner and have it available for sale in bulk. Also have matching perf material. See my ad. Search "printed dot vinyl headliner.
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squareweave Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2004 Posts: 448 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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choup wrote: |
I have sourced the correct printed dot headliner and have it available for sale in bulk. Also have matching perf material. See my ad. Search "printed dot vinyl headliner.
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I've sent the above member an email in regards to this old add:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1416264
Does anybody else know where to find this stuff, both perforated and printed dot. I want enough to do a correct headliner in my bus. |
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squareweave Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2004 Posts: 448 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2016 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Source for headliner material |
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Well after a long hunt this arrived today. Enough for late split deluxe.
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dualport Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2005 Posts: 69 Location: Austin
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Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: Source for headliner material |
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and... How or where did you order the dotted vinyl? _________________ Conrad @ Air Coolers VW Gang http://aircoolers.org
Air Coolers Google Map of clubs, services and shops: https://goo.gl/3KM4wm |
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squareweave Samba Member
Joined: November 15, 2004 Posts: 448 Location: British Columbia
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Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2016 5:29 am Post subject: Re: Source for headliner material |
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dualport wrote: |
and... How or where did you order the dotted vinyl? |
Through a guy in South America. Not cheap but nice. I'd suggest buying both from the same supplier so that they match.
I can't seem to find his contact info, but I'll keep looking and PM you if I find it. |
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nlorntson Crazy VW Lady
Joined: March 13, 2004 Posts: 3783 Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:28 am Post subject: Re: Source for headliner material |
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An older post, but where can I find the printed dot headliner these days?
Do any of the usual suppliers make the correct headliner and pieces around the windows for a 67 21 window?
Any recommendations on the white sunroof cover as well? |
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14259 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:38 pm Post subject: Re: Source for headliner material |
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nlorntson wrote: |
...the printed dot headliner... |
The elusive Holy Grail. |
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DesignBuild Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2016 Posts: 314 Location: TEXAS
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:23 pm Post subject: Re: Source for headliner material |
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Everettb referred me to this series of posts, but I don't have a bus.
I have a 1972 Super Beetle made in Wolfsburg for the Europeans market. The headliner has 6 bows and 8 panels. The 4 center panels are truly perforated, while the remaining panels look perforated but ar actually printed with dark gray ink. Since I have a Beetle, it came with all the pieces separate. The headliner is all sewn together as are the parts below the headliner. So the pieces around the rear defroster window are sewn together including the sail panels and the upholstery under and above the quarter windows. All of this is printed to resemble the perforated material. If the car came with a cloth headliner there would have never been any need for perforated material because a cloth headliner breathes through the cloth. All of the headliners that are fuzzy are made from brushed cotton.
Consider the cost of real mohair containing fabric in an inexpensive Beetle. Even Packard automobiles from the 1930s used cotton napped headliners in closed cars. Cotton is/was used because it can be shrunk to remove wrinkles and get the headlining tight.
Sorry but wool or animal hair fabrics don't shrink like cotton. Insects also eat fabrics made with animal hair. Animals hair was used in carpeting and door panels, but in the early 1950s dye products could be used that would kill the moth larvae that eat animal fibers.
Not sure about buses, but the Beetles made for the European market had complete cloth upholstery offered even into the 1970s. Mine is a base model Super Beetle and it came with cloth upholstered seat cushions in front and back, all seats were low back. I have looked at European brochures and Beetles were available with a complete fabric interior using the same napped material as that used in the headliner and in some cases the colors were slightly different. My seats are a medium dark blue corduroy and the optional colors for the interior were a light blue, a very dark blue and aqua.
When I restore my interior I am using plain weave fabrics that match the headliner fabric. Door panels will be fabric too though how I will get the panels to look like the vinyl material, I don't know yet. In the early 1950s cotton batting was used to shape the surface of door panels with stainless steel strips with staple backs shaping the areas in the panels. I will have to look at some pictures of European interiors to get some ideas. Some panel areas could be sewn to the door or side panels with contrasting stitching or welt between panel areas.
Now that the VW museum is no longer supplying the birth certificates for production cars, what your vehicle interior was like new will be unknown. So you can do whatever you like, but printed material at $75 per yard is far too steep. You can come up with a screen printing method to print the little dots on vinyl material after its cut and sewn together. Use a cloth headliner that matches the color of the solid vinyl on the side panels and be done with it. At some point in the future perforated material will be unavailable just like the material for popular American cars is now. |
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DesignBuild Samba Member
Joined: September 29, 2016 Posts: 314 Location: TEXAS
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Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: Source for headliner material |
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I forgot to mention that the headliner in my Beetle is light blue with and without perforations. The remainder is the ivory printed perforated fake leather-look except for the B-pillar. That is covered with a plain ivory strip of vinyl (Naugahyde) sewn at the top and just under the quarter window to the fake perforated material. Vinyl material today has a stretch backing whereas Naugahyde has a woven heavy weight material on the back. Naugahyde behaves much like real leather and is 'tough-as-nails". I believe it still available today.
So if you think you have problems finding the correct material imagine trying to find light blue printed and perforated naughahyde. |
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14259 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2019 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Source for headliner material |
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Like the elusive Mountweasel. |
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nate9871 Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2019 Posts: 62 Location: TN
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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 11:33 pm Post subject: Re: Source for headliner material |
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Hey all,
Apparently this printed headliner is pretty common and available in south America.
Using google translate I searched the Brazilian "Ebay" and found this:
https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1158474108...511094c821
I may try and get in contact with the company and see of they would just send a roll of the vinyl material. I don't speak Spanish but worth a shot...
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Tizian Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2015 Posts: 383 Location: Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:16 am Post subject: Re: Source for headliner material |
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nate9871 wrote: |
Hey all,
Apparently this printed headliner is pretty common and available in south America.
Using google translate I searched the Brazilian "Ebay" and found this:
https://produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-1158474108...511094c821
I may try and get in contact with the company and see of they would just send a roll of the vinyl material. I don't speak Spanish but worth a shot...
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Nate,
you should have told me this earlier
Now I went into this printing orgy!
I just had a look at the vendors page. But it seems as if it’s not available anymore:
https://www.bunnitu.com.br/volkswagen/acabamento-i...a-vw-fusca
The other thing is there is no corresponding perforated material... |
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Tizian Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2015 Posts: 383 Location: Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 3:37 am Post subject: Re: Source for headliner material |
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I just had a quick look around on the vendors page once more turning on the translate button. That does help. But hey, this is not Spanish!
It looks like they do have both materials in stock. Dotted and perforated. The headliner pieces are pre cut to specific models though. Would be interesting if they sell this material as yardage... Keep us updated Nate!
https://www.bunnitu.com.br/loja/catalogo.php?loja=...o&pg=2 |
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Tizian Samba Member
Joined: February 18, 2015 Posts: 383 Location: Hamburg, Germany
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Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2019 5:40 am Post subject: Re: Source for headliner material |
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And yes, it seems as if the manufacturer is still the same one mentioned years ago in this old thread. Vulcan.com.br.
The page is inactive though.
Does anyone know if any yardage had been shipped to the US in those days?
They still seem producing this stuff. |
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nate9871 Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2019 Posts: 62 Location: TN
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Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2019 3:54 pm Post subject: Re: Source for headliner material |
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I never got a response back via email unfortunately. Anybody here speak Portugese? |
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ChiapC Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2017 Posts: 61 Location: San Diego
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 9:58 am Post subject: Re: Source for headliner material |
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Hey all,
After trying to locate this material myself, I ended up just using the plain off-white for around my windows. I already spent the money for the headliner kit and didn't want to shell out another few hundred just to have "correct" headliner when there are other parts of the bus that aren't perfectly correct either.
I was able to successfully find this material. Figured this thread has been ongoing for 15 or so years, so an update would be helpful!
I contacted SMS Fabrics in Oregon who had it. They actually shipped me a sample. Looks pretty good. They wanted $95/yard. See photos for contact info.
In case photos don't work years from now:
SMS Auto Fabrics
350 South Redwood St
Canby, OR 97013
503-263-3535
[email protected]
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BarryL Samba Member
Joined: November 01, 2004 Posts: 14259 Location: Casa de Oro, California
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Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: Source for headliner material |
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All I can say is wow great intel. I wonder how much they have? |
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matthew henricks Samba Member
Joined: January 02, 2002 Posts: 1219 Location: So. Cal
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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 7:32 am Post subject: Re: Source for headliner material |
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FWIW SMS is great for material they have in stock. If they do not have it and say they can make it then put your seat belt on and enjoy the very long ride...
Also. A few years ago i compared their black dot material to the perforated you can get from other headliner suppliers. My goal was to make an original style bug headliner. Like suggested earlier in this thread try to buy your materials from the same source so the white matches. This material was very different in color from what the typical VW kit has.
Anyways.... _________________ 1964 Original Owner build Thread. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=702135&highlight=
Ambulance Fan's. https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=627707&highlight=
Parts i am looking for:
64 bug nice used front/rear Black LHD floor mat. |
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