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Douglas Denlinger
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 Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:02 am Post subject: 58 ghia choke cable HELP |
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Well, I'm pretty much down to this......I need the choke cable wire that runs thru the coiled tube that has the hard rubber protective sleeve.
I just need the wire!!! Anyone?
I tried KGPR and even bought a new one from WBW (for a bug) very nice, but it's not long enough....aaarrrrruuuuugggggh.
Any help much appreicated. Thanks
Douglas
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RockStock
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yes, ghia choke cable are longer than beetle i believe
a bus one maybe?
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| some people have used MTN bike cables&housing |
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retrowagen
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The Ghia-specific item is very hard to find! I exploited my European contacts a few years ago and bought what I understood was the last NOS one left in Germany - just the inner cable element, not the housing, mind you...
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yes, ghia choke cable are longer than beetle i believe
a bus one maybe? |
The KG item is around 10 inches longer than the equivalent Oval Window Beetle cable. Bus cables are the same length as the Beetle units, IIRC.
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| some people have used MTN bike cables&housing |
This would work for the cable housing, but not the cable itself. I'll chat with my old pal John Copello - perhaps between he and I we can come up with an easily available solution. The solid steel cable stock is easy enough to find; the end with the knurled nut and shaft will need to be fab'ed.
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| retrowagen wrote: |
The Ghia-specific item is very hard to find! I exploited my European contacts a few years ago and bought what I understood was the last NOS one left in Germany - just the inner cable element, not the housing, mind you...
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yes, ghia choke cable are longer than beetle i believe
a bus one maybe? |
The KG item is around 10 inches longer than the equivalent Oval Window Beetle cable. Bus cables are the same length as the Beetle units, IIRC.
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| some people have used MTN bike cables&housing |
This would work for the cable housing, but not the cable itself. I'll chat with my old pal John Copello - perhaps between he and I we can come up with an easily available solution. The solid steel cable stock is easy enough to find; the end with the knurled nut and shaft will need to be fab'ed. |
John is a remarkable machinist. If anyone can make it happen, he can.
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I replaced my wire by using the original knob and piano wire. Too bad I forget where I came up with the piano wire. Cut off 1/2" of the metal rod and file square. Drill a small hole in the end. Kind of tricky to do if you can't find a drill press. Insert the wire and solder with silver solder. It has worked for me for years.
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stripboat99
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Try CIP1.com part vwc-113-711-501. Looks like the right part to me, I bought one but have not installed it yet. It's looks complete, everything but the knob on the end. I'll really be bummed if it's too short.....
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retrowagen
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Try CIP1.com part vwc-113-711-501. Looks like the right part to me, I bought one but have not installed it yet. It's looks complete, everything but the knob on the end. I'll really be bummed if it's too short.....
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That'll be too short. The part with the "113" prefix is the Beetle one... Look for one with a "141" prefix...
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Douglas Denlinger
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Thanks for the ideas....I'm going to try adding to the short bug cable first by welding it together. If that idea flops, I'll move on to swanlakers idea. If that fails, I'll try a sail boat shop....riggings! Thanks again, I'll let you know.
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Douglas Denlinger
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Welding nor brazing would work.....on to plan B
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| Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject: sorry I wanted to start a new thread |
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I wanted to start a new thread.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:19 am Post subject: 58 ghia choke cable HELP |
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If you guys repop one , put me down for one . I have been looking for one for my freinds 58 for a year now . None of the ones listed at the usual vendors will work , if it has a bug or bus part number , forget ordering it , it will be too short . TROY
Also looking for a NOS Ghia choke cable !!!!
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| Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:21 am Post subject: Re: 58 ghia choke cable HELP |
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If you guys repop one , put me down for one . I have been looking for one for my freinds 58 for a year now . None of the ones listed at the usual vendors will work , if it has a bug or bus part number , forget ordering it , it will be too short . TROY
Also looking for a NOS Ghia choke cable !!!! |
That's how I got into refurbishing fuel senders. Someone can help a lot of people out by taking the time to re-pop them and make them available.
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retrowagen
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John Copello dropped by my house last night and we discussed the idea of making choke cables. I'm hoping we'll have a prototype up in a couple weeks. Keep you all posted...
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| I thought mine was missing from my '59 - - - but then found it tucked in the trunk! That is about the only lucky thing that has happened with my '59! |
I ran into the same thing - I started researching sources, and then I found it coiled up underneath the gas tank.
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Douglas Denlinger
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I'm pretty sure I found a solution to the problem......a local speedo shop has a cable thicker in diameter.....yet it still slides thru the tube with no problem.
My only worry now is if the thicker cable will some how effect the performance of the choke? I'll find out soon enough.
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