100K Badges

[nlorntson]

Are these 100K badges real or reproductions? How can I tell the difference?

Back side. Not the greatest pic...

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Show me the back side.
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"What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do

[nlorntson]

Added to the original post. I'll see if I can get a better one later.

[53 0val]

OK...........simple answer: They are both fakes. The St. Christopher lacks detal around the letters and laurel leaves. Easy check is the dots between the leaves. They are not sharp and lack defination. The letters " E" in Kilometer are rough and not precise. St. Christopher looks almost bald and the Christ child has no face. It is a '60's cast piece.

The body badge is also a fake. The leaves lack the detail and the letters are not precise. These badges should be as sharp as a die struck coin and have no casting flaws or weak detail. The reverse of the body badge should have the maker mark "tweer&turck....Ludenscheid.. on the bottom of the badge. The originals are so sharp on the edges.......you can cut yourself with them... They also have beautiful finish....not the "mat" finish of your examples.

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings.
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"What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do

[53 0val]

Almost forgot.......the originals are very thin. Thinner than you would expect, because the metal is a much higher quality.
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[nlorntson]

Good thing I didn't pay any $. They came a box with a bunch of other parts a guy sold us.

Thanks Bob!

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[dantrefethen]

This is what came with my 100,000 presentation set

Dan

[53 0val]

The early sets came with a beautiful VW embossed folder, with a certificate, a stickpin, and both badges with screws.
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"What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do

[dantrefethen]

My picture probably isn't good enough to see all the detail.

This the first time it has been out of the wrapper.

It looks like it has darkened with age.

The one in my car has turned almost black (dark gray)

On both you can clearly see Christs face and the dots between the leaves.

Dan

[53 0val]

You will also note that on Dan's example the St. Christropher's left leg is distinct and on the first example it's almost an after-thought. The hand holding the staff has clear and distinct fingers as well. Also notice how well the letters are formed. St. Christopher's beard should have clear and seperate hairs visable too as well a curl to his hair at nose level. The color "blue" is very much like the blue used by Hazet screwdriver handles. It is very obvious when compared with a known fake.
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"What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do

[53 0val]

I will be showing the differences at the Solvang Toy and Lit show......drop by and I will happy to "educate" you.
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"What a fool believes he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away." Dobee, Dobee, Do

[dantrefethen]

Yay its real !

And the one in my car is real too!

Click on the picture and detail is much better.

Again, the value comparing the fake with the real thing.

Dan

[dantrefethen]

I removed the body badge from my car and looked on the back.

Its a fake, no writing.

Oh well. It looks good anyway.

At least the St Christopher badges are real.

Dan

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[71er]

Hello,
All two are genuine. there is not reproduction divides. the two divide are 100% originals!

[nlorntson]

Hmmm. There seems to be a differenc of opinion. I'm gonna see about some better pictures and let you both take another look.

Thanks.

[dantrefethen]

My money is on Bob.

He has been collecting for a very long time

And knows his stuff.

Dan