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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:44 am    Post subject: PICS: My restoration continues,NEW:batwing resto Reply with quote

Hi All! Very Happy
I am starting with my 1954 beetle restoration project. Till now I have just read other members posts and restoration pictures. And I have to say that there is a lot of true experts on this forums ready to help .
I had a 1302 beetle 1971 and was in love with but since oval is possessed me recently I had to make a switch. Base for my project is Feb. 1954 oval with chassis no. 1-0605106, body no.536918. The guy that sold me a oval had done all body work than left it on the field for two years waiting for restoration. Now it is mine. There is one problem since he has not installed the original heater channels and now i have heating holes below the door and not as they should be. So there is a dilemma should I keep installed and new heather channels or to replace them. First pictures are coming as soon as I discover how to post them. I will post lot of pictures as I move forward in restoration. This week body is going to send blasting (people who do the send blasting here in Belgrade, Serbia is quite hard to find since there is only two or three of them and they donít do cars much hence the price is quite reasonable 60 EUR per hour) .
Kindly asking all who can help in any way to do so. Also when I post a pictures (and I hope that I will) please comment all you see that is strange or nice. I will post a lot of pictures for viewing and You All guys please advise everything you can.

Thank you for attention and that is all for now.

Ivan


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dobar Dan Ivan,

Nice to see another 54 oval getting started. I am just getting under way as well. You have come to the right place as these folks know it all or know where to find it at least.

I would just say be careful with someone who doesn't know cars sandblasting your bug, especially the flat panels, doors, hood, decklid, fenders, as they can warp easily if not done right. Have to be careful of heat build up in the metal from the blasting. These guys can tell you better than I.

My first bug was a 1980 1302 that I had in Macedonia, back in 1996. I have pictures of it somewhere. There was lots of bugs around when I was overseas, but not many old ones, nice to see another oval surfacing. Look forward to the pictures.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

welcome and good luck on your project. Cool

The best advice I can give you is whatever you planned on spending and your time line, at MINIMUM double it!!!!!! you always run into things you didn't plan for, so keep that in mind.

As for the blasting, you should use walnut shells, not sand, as it keeps the thin metal from turning into a Ruffles potato chip. Or ol' sand paper or paint stripper worked for me.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys, here are starting pictures. For the beginning I have separated body from the chassis. The pictures are randomly selected so maybe they are not following each other as they should but I will correct that in the future.

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I will post more latter,

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More starting pictures!
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As I move forward I ll post more

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amazing experience, sandblasting. I know and I have red all discussions about removing paint and rust with anything but the send, but for me there was no other option since only blasting here is send blasting.
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I have to say that guys did a hell of the job since they worked for about two hours without brake. And at the end I had a clean bare metal body.

Now I have to primer it with epoxy primer.

see you soon.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so what is the story on the rockers? Have they been replaced? I ask because it looks as though the heater outlet is in the wrong place.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice project...Time to dig out those semaphores!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your apron should not have exhaust cut outs.
Good luck with your project. You are off to a great start. Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joe h. wrote:
Your apron should not have exhaust cut outs.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:45 pm    Post subject: Projects Reply with quote

Shocked I agree with other comment regarding rear apron. Good luck with your resto. I have 2 '54's and one is VIN # 1-0609368 a brother or sister for sure, and the other is a bit further away at # 1-0670343, both Euro Sedans. Currently working on a '56 Rag. Look forward to seeing your pics. Thanks for sharing.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you all guys for comments. Very Happy I really appreciate it .
Regarding rockers, yes they have been replaced before me. I had a dilemma to cut them out or to left as it is. I decided to leave this nice and new but wrong heather channels . Maybe I can close outlets and open other at the right place as they should be.
Semaphores........, well I thought that they might be buried and now after blasting i can see that something is welded inside. Maybe Ill dig to check.

Rear Apron. I didnít know that apron should not have exhaust cut outs. But now when you pointed out I have looked pictures and saw that some have and some have not. Another dilemma! Question
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be correct for '54 it should have semaphores, and no exhaust cut outs.
It just depends on how far you want to go. You will ask yourself this question many, many times during this project. Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am terrified! Shocked Last night my friend worked on my beetle till late evening. Had to fix some minor body flows, patching and fixing. It was planned to be finished by today and in a day or two it had to go for the paint job. And than my worst fears came to reality. Suddenly it started to rain from bright sky, light at first. I had no time to take the body inside and was not much worried so just covered the body with standard beetle cover. As time went by, light rain has just become heavy rain and at the end severe storm. Although my beetle is decently epoxy primered I am trembling from fear. Any experiences Question Is it going to affect my project. It still rains. Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Epoxy primer should protect your car from the rain just fine. Don't make a habit out of leaving it in the rain in primer but one storm shouldn't hurt it in any way. If it was regular primer (not epoxy) I would then worry because that stuff is like a sponge and it suck it all the moisture you could throw at it.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leaving that car exposed like that will not harm it if you leave it indoors! One night out side and the morning dew will make it turn brown AKA surface rust!

Good luck on your project and be ready for a bunch of obstacles you will encounter on your way!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Few new pictures as I move forward. The pan has been grinded to bare metal and than epoxy primered.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well guys (and girls, if any) I was busy working on my project in order to finish with painting before winter. I was a little lazy for posting but here now here are newest pictures from my restoration.

Please continue to comment and advise all you think.

Rgds,

Ivan

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how it should look in that last pic,
other than the bends in the floor made by the f##king shippers when they took my 54 off of the container.......

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to weld those taillight holes closed. You can drill new mounting holes after the car is painted. And I agree with the others about eliminating the exhaust cutouts and opening the semaphore boxes if this is indeed a '54. (And cut the lawn!)
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