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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

James, Just wondering where you got that gauge pod. I have a 2-place pod I was going to install in the same spot but I don't like the angle of it (points down) which makes it a little hard to see the gauges fully.
Your clock actually works?!
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made it custom out of fiberglass...
I couldn't find anything at all that would work.
...and I really wanted to mount them up high.

The face plate is a standard black-aluminum, two-hole mount. ($10)
It came with a 90' bend for mounting.
I bent it further to get a good angle on the sloped Vanagon dash.
Then I made a mold for the pod and used about five layers of fiberglass.

It took some time to trim, fill, prime and paint it, but it worked!!
I like this position for the gauges; very readable!

It's a bit "homebuilt", but it really doesn't look too bad.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah.. the clock works ..accurate too!!
..but it's got a digital "bruise" in the upper left corner.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

has anyone tried running the gauges up the A pillar next to the windshield?
I know there are small gauges, and mounts available.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

aviatorjames wrote:
I made it custom out of fiberglass...
I couldn't find anything at all that would work.
...and I really wanted to mount them up high.

The face plate is a standard black-aluminum, two-hole mount. ($10)
It came with a 90' bend for mounting.
I bent it further to get a good angle on the sloped Vanagon dash.
Then I made a mold for the pod and used about five layers of fiberglass.

It took some time to trim, fill, prime and paint it, but it worked!!
I like this position for the gauges; very readable!

It's a bit "homebuilt", but it really doesn't look too bad.
james


Wow, that's dedication. I think that's a little further than I want to go. I was thinking about mounting my pod up higher, above the ashtray were the dash flattens out. It looks good there and fits pretty well but I would have to drill a hole in the dash to run the wiring though, which I'm not sure I want to do. I'll post pic's when done. Only have a few hours on the weekends right now to work on the van and I have several projects going at once!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 8:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Another console. Not the picture I had in mind. I hope to find that one too.

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Man, that custom dash is sweeeeeet! I just love it. Not everyone has the time/ability/money to pull it off but I'm always impressed with those who do.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bass Player Kevin...

Actually, it wasn't very hard at all.
It took me about four hours, over three days.
...and more importantly, I got it how I want it!!

I'm also very reluctant to make mod's that are irreversible.
I can un-screw the pod and drop the spare-change-receptacle back in!!

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm leaning against that one myself. I've got all my wires run, just waiting on my decision of where to mount! I'll probably go with the pod I have (it's the old VDO type 2-place) seen here: http://www.egauges.com/vdo_acce.asp?Subgroup=Custom_Console

and make some kind of "angle" adapter to have it stand up straight.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple more pic's of my installation...

The driver's perspective (sort of?)


Night illumination...
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

McHuntley wrote:
has anyone tried running the gauges up the A pillar next to the windshield?
I know there are small gauges, and mounts available.

Thanks,
Matt


That is where i have my oil pressure gage. There is only room for one standard VDO gage there, but it is my favorite place for a single gage that i've seen yet. Fairly clean, although a bit "ricer" looking. I'll try and take a picture tomorrow morning.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is where i chose to put my oil pressure gage. I think it works out pretty well...

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2/3 of my junkyard setup. Still need to find an old audi to get the oil pressure gauge.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:33 pm    Post subject: ok, educate me. Reply with quote

What are the extra gauges for? Do I need some for my 84 to treat it right? Am I being a neglectful master to my prescious beast? Ian
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rs4-380,

Were did you run the wires for that set-up? Did you drill though the dash? Basically have the same pod but for 2 gauges and right now I have it mounted over the ash-tray being held on with Velcro. The angle is not that great. I was thinking of mounting it where you have yours but was reluctant to drill through the dash.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: ok, educate me. Reply with quote

IanMay wrote:
What are the extra gauges for? Do I need some for my 84 to treat it right? Am I being a neglectful master to my prescious beast? Ian


Not really. Gauges are for anal rententive and/or obsessive compulsive types and are mostly good to give you something to worry about when you're on a road trip. That being said, I like my gauges. I feel like I'm being attentive to the needs of my beast.

Oil Pressure: The life blood of your engine. Almost always runs just fine. A gauge will let you observe the slow decline in pressure over many, many thousands of miles as the engine components wear. Otherwise, the loss of oil pressure would typically be caused by some catastrophic failure in which case the idiot light would do a fine job.

Volt meter: Lets you know that your charging system is working. Here again, the idiot light does a fine job of letting you know whether or not it's working OK.

Cylinder Head Temp: This one would actually be pretty darned useful if you've got an air cooled motor. Running too hot is really bad for these and it's hard to tell if your inside the thing. You can smell it once you stop and get out.

Oil Temp: Another useful one for the air cooled crowd but it's so hard to know just when to start worrying. I've got a friend who has one of these on his motorcycle and he worries constantly. He's done a ton of research on oil temp and oil breakdown and there are as many opinions as there are oil temp gauges. I ride exactly the same motorcycle and I assume it runs very comparable temps. I don't have a gauge so I always tell him that mine doesn't overheat (ignorance is bliss). Mine's now got 160,000 miles on it and I'm doing a top end on it.

Outside air temp: This is one that VDO offers that I really think would be the most usefull. It would let you know whether or not to put on a jacket before you get out of your van.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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rs4-380,

Were did you run the wires for that set-up? Did you drill though the dash? Basically have the same pod but for 2 gauges and right now I have it mounted over the ash-tray being held on with Velcro. The angle is not that great. I was thinking of mounting it where you have yours but was reluctant to drill through the dash.


yes, just drilled a 1/2 inch hold right under the pod. Being that that part of hte dash is metal, it's kind of a pain to get the drill in there with the windsheild angle. If you didn't want to do that you could always just run them down the defroster vent and drill a hole in the airflow tubing under hte dahs to bring the wires out.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BEWARE !!!

Kevin the Bass player, and anyone else thinking of using this adapter...
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I bought that little brass adapter piece (by itself from another vendor)
It has the male VW 10mmx1 threads and female 1/8npt...

I threaded it into my case and it sheared in two at about 1ftlb!!!
...thank the gods for easy-outs!!

There is not nearly enough material between the female bore and the male threaded sealing-face adjacent to the hex!!!

Again, I'm speaking ONLY of the little brass adapter piece!
The other pieces in this kit actually look very nice.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

YIKES! I have that setup......I didn't like it os much to begin with. It could ruin a whole week or two if that broke.

What did you replace it with?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the 42draft designs setup also, I haven't installed it yet. The rig they sent me doesn't look anything like the picture, it is actually better. The block that the sensors go in is smaller. I was wondering about just threading the hose into the case even though it is NPT and not metric. I know that the van-cafe oil pressure kit they sell tells you to do exactly that, put some teflon tape on the threads and screw it in. Anyone have any other suggestions? Should I try the adapter and just "go easy" when I screw it in? My gauges are in and all hooked up, ran the gauge wire to the engine, just need to install the senders. Any other suggestions would be appreciated!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found oil pressure and temp gauges from a VW Rabbit Cabrio and mounted them with a $5 mount from Ebay. It's not exactly pleasing to the eye, but it serves its purpose. I used a six-prong plug just under the mount and cluster cover, so to remove everything I just pull the cover up and unplug.

The gauges don't interfere with my line of vision at all, and it's nice to have them right there close.

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