2.2 GoWesty, More Power? Any Probs.?

[Petervw]

Not to put a damper on what you are going to do...just trying to spare one from any possible future grief here.. the reason I asked how many miles are on the motor is because the labor etc. $3500 as you quoted is very expensive when you are exchanging old VW for old subi...It is good that you may get another spare motor and I hope the complete wireing including the harness and ECU etc..hopefully when the oil pan is taken off along with valve covers all the internals are clean along with the covers...and if not, who knows what condition the crank bearings will be like, maybe all scratched up and then now you into a complete rebuild...a good whack on the side of a car is enough to alter the sensitive capabilities of the FI system to give it a continually "miss" at the stop lite, makeing it near impossible to hunt down the problem without exchanging the harness and every other FI part...I know you get the picture so I will stop here and any thing that I have said comes out of my own learning experience...go new or slightly used on everything...Good luck...

[r39o]

There is not a lot of magic involved. I will do a leak down before going too far. It is only mechanical and electrical things. No big deal. There is plenty of info and support. A 100K mile engine is not considered worn, if I recall for a Suby. Make no matter it will all be cleaned, inspected and evaluated first. As long as I have the goodies that go with the motor, I can always get another or a JDM one if needed. There is a Suby wrecking yard here near too. I am not worried.
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"Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!

1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....

Click to see my ads for Cup holders, Subaru clutch fix and CLK wheels (no wheels currently)

[Westy914]

Interesting discussion. I'm researching this topic because eventually I'd like to flat tow my 914 with my '87 Westy. Anybody have any experience pulling a light vehicle with a Vanagon? It will be important to keep a strong low to mid range torque curve.

I'll also be reseaching conversion shops (if that's the way I go). Anybody got any recommendations in the Seattle-Portland area? This is my 1st post on TheSamba. I like the nice reasoned tone of the discussion.

Marc

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[fatboypaul]

Welcome Westy914, you may want to join the yahoo subaruvanagon group, every question you could possible want to ask about the subaru conversion is always welcomed. A wealth of knowledge.
Thanks, Paul.

EJ22 in 90 Syncro wannabe.

[Westy914]

Thanks Lundy and Paul. I'd looked at SmallCars web site and was impressed. I'll check out that yahoo site.

I wish I felt confident that building a VW wbx would give enough hp but I don't think it's in the cards. Besides, the wbx technology is getting older and the subie is still being developed. I love the Westy package but I really want to hit the road with the 914 in tow (it will stay air cooled BTW).

Marc

[Cat and Walter]

as rare as these things are getting my thought is keep it original. there is value in original. some upgrades are ok as long as they are in the same vain, as in 1.9 to 2.1 etc.

[r39o]

If I viewed all my unique cars as rare or collectors items, I would go more nuts than I already am! I hardly see any Rabbits on the road anymore. So my 79 GTi is extra rare. I see a few VW Caddys here and there, but all the ones I see are ratty. So my very clean 82 LX (in GTi trim) is rare, too. I own some old Mercedes SLs and I know those are rare based on production numbers the prices they go for. My only cars I consider rare are my old Mercedes. They made zillions of Vanagons. There will always be some pristine Vanagons some where which were garaged since new and have almost no miles on them. So prehaps maybe in 20 - 40 years they might be considered rare. Then again, I might not make it that long. So I am doing what I like and am having fun. I'll let some restorer undo all my evil mods when I am pushing up flowers. I supsect we'll all be running fuel cells in a couple of decades anyways. Then all these rare cars will have a rare fuel you will be paying $20 / gal for novelty use or something obsurd like that. Go have fun.....
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"Use the SEARCH, Luke" But first visit the Vanagon FAQ!

1990 Multivan EJ 22, Rancho trans 0.82 4th, Small Car front AC, CLKs w/ 215/65-16, homemade big brakes 303mm, Konis, Recaros, etc....

Click to see my ads for Cup holders, Subaru clutch fix and CLK wheels (no wheels currently)

[Dogpilot]

Not to start a flame war or anything, I just wanted to point out something. While Vanagons were produced in high numbers, so where Pintos and Vegas. I have to admit, I turn and look when I see them (I also point them out to my kids and expalin what a total piece of cr*p they where), they are now very rare indeed. While produced in Large numbers, they where (for good reason) recycled, in large numbers.

Rare can be for very different reasons.
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Geology with a Syncro rocks!
86 Syncro Westy AKA "The Bughunter"
98 Disco I
08 Range Rover SC
08 VW Rabbit S
1951 O-1G

[D Clymer]

Vanagons are indeed becoming rare. Just do a search on AutoTrader.com and you only get 3-4 pages of results for a 80-91 search.

I am all in favor of preserving the good models - Multivan, Carat, Bluestar, Whitestar, Westy, Syncro, sunroof, etc. However, having already converted a Bluestar to Subaru 2.5 power, I can honestly and truthfully say that the van could easily be returned to stock WBX fitment at any time should it become a collector's item down the road. Modifications to the body were minimal. Just a few holes drilled here and there and the area or the firewall for the pipes to pass through was trimmed.

[Cat and Walter]

They made zillions of Vanagons

is that all?

[klucz]

Vanagons will become collectors items the day after you sell yours!
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84 Westy 4spd sold

[EXITSTRATEGY]

what is the EJ22?
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I'm living down by the river and i don't even have my 'van'...

[riceye]

Subaru
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'87 Westy Weekender - daily driver on salt-free roads

There's gonna be some changes made.

“I find that things usually go well right up until the moment they don't.” - Ahwahnee

"Quality isn't method. It's the goal toward which the method is aimed." - Socrates, later quoted by R.M. Pirsig

[ChesterKV]

[kenmag]

My EJ22 in the bus.. Smallcar kit. Tom Shiels SS header, reverse coolant manifold, wiring harness and thermostat by-pass flange. KEP filter box and intake duct.

So far no problems in almost 1 year since conversion.

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87GL Westy/suby ej22
87GL tintop/suby ej22
05 Golf TDI
95 jetta GLX