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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject: Norcold... Is it really any better? Reply with quote

I'm not that familiar with the Norcold refridgerators, and the search here didn't produce too much. For those of you who have made the change, is the Norcold much different from the stock Dometic? Also, which model did you use and what has the maintenance been like? Thanks for your replies in advance.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have the Norcold Model 3163 in my '95 Eurovan camper. It works like a champ.

The car has 120k and the PO used it to camp a lot, and never had a problem. I just returned from a one month cross country trip using it every day.

It will run a month steadily on one tank of propane, and it is so cold you have to watch out to avoid freezing the food.

I recommend it highly. I did have the factory 12v cooler in my '79 bay window which was not much of a unit ....big amp draw and not much poop.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too am curious how the Norcold compares with the standard Westy 3-way (which normally keeps things about 40 degrees colder than ambient temperature).
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't have a Norcold in my Westy, but I do in my Sportsmobile, and can say this.
The difference in keeping food / drinks ice cold is like night and day.

The Norcold actually has a refrigerant compressor, which in turn will make ice and keep ice cream rock hard in the freezer compartment.

The smaller model for the Westfalia is also just an AC /DC unit.

I haven't ever seen or heard of a 3 way Norcold including gas running.

In my opinion the Norcold is a much more efficiant refrigerator than the ammonia heat transfer Dometic 3 way unit.
It actually works just as your household unit would, and very well at that.

I'll have to do some research on which model fit's into the Vanagon Westy--I do know there is one--
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Norcold Model that will fit into a Westfalia is a DC0040

It's a two way--AC/DC box.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll check them out later. So do I understand you correctly that there are no 3-way versions to fit the Westy?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The Norcold Model that will fit into a Westfalia is a DC0040

It's a two way--AC/DC box.


I was considering this unit. Since it cools so well, I wonder if it could be used intermittently on DC with a good deep cycle aux battery. Just for those times when there was no AC available, but you are parked.

Lets say you are driving and the fridge is ice cold. Then you stop for the night at a rest stop. Let the fridge continue to run for a few hours on DC then turn off before bed. Get up in the morning turn back on and hit the road. Would the fridge stay cold enough for the 8 hours that it was off?
If this worked, then the fact that there is no propane might not be as big a factor. However, for those folks who are on extended stays away from AC, it is still probably a no go.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone have a link to a supplier of these units
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let your finger's do the walking---

Do a web search for Norcold.
There are 41,637 places to look and read about them.
I think Camper's World sells them.

They do have a gas model too---
But--it's back to the low performance coolng through absobtion process.
Not much better than what you have.

The AC / DC refrigerator works very well, and puts the Dometic to shame.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah... it's just that battery power doesn't last long enough (and it's nice to be able to go camping without a separate generator).
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No,
It's just that you don't have the correct battery capacity to handle the draw.

There are several places to mount a decent sized house battery besides the whimpy, lame battery box under the driver's seat.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Norcold 3-way unit in my Eurovan is Model 3163G.

I don't know if it will fit in a Westy. Operating on propane is definately it's strong suit. Runs 30 days on 5 gallons and easily freezes if not careful.

Doing the dance on 12v by turning it off at night will work, but sooner or later you will forget and leave it on for a day and oops...dead battery.

Propane is the way to go.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete, do you have experience with the original Westy 3-way Dometic?
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out www.rvmobile.com. They sell both Dometic and Norcold units. After a couple simple upgrades to my Dometic (new fan & air valve), the sucker works much better and stays very cold. Also, I think it would stink not being able to use propane. Its all I ever use to run the fridge. Too bad Norcold doesn't make a three way to fit the westy!
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gears-

No I don't. We removed the 12v unit in the '79 Westy and replaced it with a stock cooler to gain the extra space taken up by the fridge mechanics. That fridge was too weak and drew too much power.

My synchro was not a Westy, so no fridge experience there.

The Norcold in the Euro was modified by the PO to increase circulation with three holes in the face trim. I now have to run it below at medium or lower to avoid freezing!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here is my Norcold and it is cold compared to the old westy frig. This is the DC0040 1.7 cuft model that I got off Ebay for $350. The other is in the garage where it belongs. The second battery will run it for a couple of days without have to recharge but I do have a solar trickel charger that keeps the battery up.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tomswesty wrote:
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Here is my Norcold and it is cold compared to the old westy frig. This is the DC0040 1.7 cuft model that I got off Ebay for $350. The other is in the garage where it belongs. The second battery will run it for a couple of days without have to recharge but I do have a solar trickel charger that keeps the battery up.


Interesting set-up with the microwave as well. It looks very clean. I'm not certain of the Dometic's size (cubic capacity), but it looks like the Norcold model pictured is smaller. Are my eyes deceiving me, or does it actually compare favorably to the Dometic?

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It actually is about the same, maybe a little smaller. The main thing is that it keeps things cold something the Dometic has a problem doing well.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tomswesty wrote:
It actually is about the same, maybe a little smaller. The main thing is that it keeps things cold something the Dometic has a problem doing well.


Excellent point, thanks for showing us your set-up.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tomswesty wrote:

Here is my Norcold and it is cold compared to the old westy frig. This is the DC0040 1.7 cuft model that I got off Ebay for $350.


That's pretty cool, and looks good, too! I think my "hot setup" seeing this would be to mount the fridge so the top is flush, and the spacer is down below, but then see if i could fit a propex heater in the bottom there... 2 days of continuous use via battery would be plenty for me.

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