Official whine about Beetles and parts for sale topic

[hitest]

Why people build a car exactly as they and only they would like it- but then think it's going to sell later is beyond me. It's a raffle prize now at best.
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[Sharp64]

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2238204
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1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
“...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” - Michael Caine

[sehilliard1]

I'd be interested to hear exactly what your "whine" would be concerning my ad. Is it the price? Could you provide an example of an original numbers matching car with a professionally rebuilt 36hp engine date stamped down to the generator for less money? I've searched the classifieds and couldn't one. But I certainly could have missed something. Is my ad-misleading? Not happy with the pictures? Deceitful in some way?

Thanks for your insight.

[consvws]

looks like a nice car to me for the price, but i love that color & I daily drive a patina beetle with a 36hp. Most people don't see the charm in that though. Good luck with the sale!

[Bryan67]

Get the fuck outta here...
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2239575
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[Sharp64]

[Bryan67]

Crazy...
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/cto/d/sacramento-custom-car/6779836266.html
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[Sharp64]

[Busstom]

Kudos to Hilliard for watching the "whines" and spotting his ad in here.

Extra credit for the cancer shot at the base of the RF quarter...but I suspect there's more lurking. And just to echo what's already been said, those vented wheels look horrid and so out-of-place on that car, particularly w/o hubcaps. And while boasting great originality, if the price is going to stay on the high end, the only dignified thing to do is spend a little dough on some smoothies and caps for it, it looks like there's margin in your price point to add that necessary touch.

[Busstom]

[Sharp64]

[sehilliard1]

I can affirm several points here.

- Yes original wheels and original hubcaps would be a nice touch. (I have a set with brand new tires I plan to put after doing a front wheel alignment.)
- Yes incorrect distributor this was I chose to give the 36 a little more bottom end. (its an 019 bus distributor) I have the original date stamped BR8 rebuilt and ready to go with the car.
- The rust through at the bottom of the passenger side is the only place on the car, more detail photos can provide that evidence, and they are available upon request.
- Yes painting the car and repairing the rust through would cost 10k. At least. You'd also be painting an original paint paint. (A sin in my opinion)

Some points of disagreement:

- 5K? or 6K. Let's be honest. If you can buy a running driving car from 63 and down for 5 or 6k thats had an engine rebuild, complete mechanical restoration, with all the original sheet metal. That car would make the good deals thread, if not immediately be snatched up by those in the know. Most of the cars in that price range are hiding something. Unless you can barn-find one, which is still doable in todays world. But this isn't "barn-find.com" this is thesamba.com.

I appreciate the feedback. I'll let the market dictate the price. I will get the wheels squared away in the next couple weeks and reshoot some photos.

[Sharp64]

[pondoras box]

[Sharp64]

Rust is a big issue here. Most of the cars that have been here for most of their lives are going to be rusty. It’s why I bought both of mine from out West. Personally, if I came across this car I would turn around and walk away as I don’t deal with rust. I did it once and never again. Rust in the pans is one thing, but I’ve seen the repairs it takes for that area and no thanks.

I also mentioned regarding the original motor claim. Any documentation on this? Just because it’s month/year correct doesn’t mean it’s the OG engine. I just had a December 59 engine pop up locally that I was tempted to grab as it would have been “correct”. Doesn’t make it OG unless you have proof.
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1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
“...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” - Michael Caine

[pondoras box]

Rust is a huge deal here, if you are going to be into classic cars then you either learn to weld or learn to pay someone $80 an hour to do it for you.

I have a very solid 60 that isn't going anywhere, I have learned my lesson the last few years. Sell your car today and you cant afford to buy it back tomorrow. The 65 body I referred to took me almost two years to find and I had to drive 6 hours one way to get it. Already feeling the pangs of regret selling it.
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Looking for anything from Hal Casey Motors out of Hamburg New York, from license plate surrounds to matchbooks.

1961 23 Window (Bobo)
1965 11 Window (Zelda)
1965 13 Window (Lucas)
1957 Oval ragtop
1988 Cabriolet VR6 conversion
Plus a lot of other rusty junk

[Sharp64]

[sehilliard1]

Body number is #288 and Engine stamping is #361

Certainly it could be the case that the engine was replaced. If we make that assumption we would could safely assume that someone tracked down, not only a year correct case, not only a month correct case, but one that fits almost perfectly into the production numbers. Those are all valid assumptions.

It would also be a valid assumption that this is the original (from the factor numbers matching engine).


I think it is a legitimate question to ask how does this affect the value of the car. For me, in the pursuit of a VERY VERY OG car, it is important. This is in fact the same reason I wouldn't choose to paint the car. It is the reason I include details about the original seats and upholstery. I think the value of this car is intimately linked to its originality(obviously). I have questions about how to value in dollars and cents that originality. Thats why the car is for sale. It is testing the value of the originality. Something on which I think we can be free to disagree.

I appreciate the informed discussion on my car. The feedback concerning what could/should be done to the car to inform the value is important to this community.

I am happy to share the sale results (if they occur) and if that would be agreeable to buyer. Unfortunately KBB hasn't solidified its data on sales of cars approaching 60 years in age.

[Sharp64]

But it is an assumption. Again, for the top dollar you are asking for, spend the $80 to confirm. As I said, I almost picked up a month/year correct engine for my car locally. Numbers were darn close. Yours very well could be the original engine but without paperwork proving it it’s difficult to make this claim.
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1960 Indigo Blue Ragtop (Blue Barry)
1967 Ghia
1985 Westy Money Pit
“...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.” - Michael Caine