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iltis74 Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2003 Posts: 826 Location: Anchorage, AK
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Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2020 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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I wanted a simple 5 or 7 spoke black wheel and found these. They would have bolted right up but the included rear center caps wouldn't go on without spacers. So T3 came through with 15mm spacers, longer studs and black conical lug nuts. Along with everything else to completely rebuild the suspension and reduce the roll. Thanks Christopher! Barely back on the road now but I like them so far. You can get them in silver instead and I think also 17x7. 1700lb weight rating, I've frankly no idea if that's considered acceptable but it's more than my van and dirt roads are as rough as they'll likely ever see. Fingers crossed!
Petrol P3B wheels.
5x112
16x7
38mm offset
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74 Thing
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Odd_Dutch Samba Member
Joined: March 20, 2011 Posts: 82 Location: The Hague, Netherlands
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 9:59 am Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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After going to almost all pages of this and the what tires fit treats i'd like to share my setup. Got the steel rims from a Mercedes C class W203,
Part number 2034000302.
7Jx16 ET 37
Paid 40 euro's for 4 rims. they looked quite nice, but gave them a good wash, light sanding and a fresh spray of black high gloss paint (here in NL we have Hammerite, I think similar to Rustoleum).
For tires I chose Hankook Radial RA08 215/70 R16C 108/106T 6PR. These were about 84 euros each.
Still driving on the old and tires springs and shocks, but they have some cutting board spacer in front and back. In the front i'm about 445mm high, in the rear about 475mm.
Clearance in the front to the upper arm is about 10mm, not using any spacers so far. Use the original ball seat lugs and nuts, fitted well on the rims.
Havent tested if the spare tire fits, i'll try to report that later
Before:
After:
Shitty image of the clearance:
Hope this helps _________________ 1980 2.0L Tintop - Subaru EJ-20 conversion |
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VicVan Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2015 Posts: 1845 Location: Vancouver Island, BC
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:05 pm Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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Hi
I found some aluminium AT Italia 6.5" x 16" ET 16.
Offset is lower than the recommended 37. I have a 2WD auto Westy, 1990, stock.
Will they fit on my van? What will the effect of the low offset be?
Cheers _________________ '90 Little Blue Truck, 2WD auto, FAS GenV 2.0 NA (AVH) |
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VicVan Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2015 Posts: 1845 Location: Vancouver Island, BC
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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Ok I had a second look, I guess this brings the wheel inboard too much? _________________ '90 Little Blue Truck, 2WD auto, FAS GenV 2.0 NA (AVH) |
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levi Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2005 Posts: 5522 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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Other way.
Outboard.
So when it's inboard a spacer can be used to reposition.
Outboard that's not possible of course.
Some have reported increased wheel bearing wear, since the balance is off.
Just how fast this occurs, I have no knowledge.
Btw, I don't believe 37 is recommended by anyone, 30 is stock as far as I know. _________________ One of these days I'm gonna settle down,
but till I do I won't be hangin round.
Going down that long lonesome highway,
gonna see life my way
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crazyvwvanman Samba Member
Joined: January 28, 2008 Posts: 9936 Location: Orbiting San Diego
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:49 am Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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The stock Vanagon wheels were most often ET39 which came in all years.
Later vans ET30 were also used.
This difference was due to different tire width sizes fitted.
In other markets the 16" T3 came in ET34.
The width of the rim and the width of the tire are some of the factors that determine what ET is needed to prevent rubbing.
Mark |
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VicVan Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2015 Posts: 1845 Location: Vancouver Island, BC
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:11 pm Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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Thanks to both of you. I'll keep looking.
_________________ '90 Little Blue Truck, 2WD auto, FAS GenV 2.0 NA (AVH) |
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Jake de Villiers Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 5911 Location: Tsawwassen, BC
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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levi wrote: |
Other way.
Outboard.
So when it's inboard a spacer can be used to reposition.
Outboard that's not possible of course.
Some have reported increased wheel bearing wear, since the balance is off.
Just how fast this occurs, I have no knowledge.
Btw, I don't believe 37 is recommended by anyone, 30 is stock as far as I know. |
The ET 37 M-Benz steelies that I've been using for five or six or seven years now only need a ~1/2" spacer in the front in order for my chubby cheek 225/55R16 tires to clear the upper control arm. They don't need any spacer in the back - but I run one to move the wheel outboard and make the van look better. _________________ '84 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX
'86 Westy Weekender Poptop/2.5 Subaru/5 Speed Posi/Audi Front Brakes/16 x 7 Mercedes Wheels - answers to 'Dixie'
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Snoww_ Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2015 Posts: 73 Location: California
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Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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Realized about a year ago I got some advice from this thread and never posted a progress picture. Thanks for the help and thanks to Chris at T3 for the hardware.
_________________ 1991 Tiico Vanagon Carat
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blee Samba Member
Joined: July 10, 2019 Posts: 18 Location: Maryland
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Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2020 8:05 am Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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Spending way too much time on this thread. Is it still alive?
Curious if instead of buying all new lugs is it more reasonable to drill the holes with a different profile? Meaning if you’re trying to switch to wheels that have round seats and you have conical hardware, could you alter the seats? Thinking of you have to get the center bore machined, this might be an easy fix. Thanks |
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jimf909 Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2014 Posts: 7472 Location: WA/ID
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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If you're anything like my dad (a cheapskate with a tool and die shop at his disposal) you'd go the machining route while hopefully taking into account that the material removed to change the shape of the seat wouldn't result in a weaker wheel. For the rest of us, $50 in hardware seems more reasonable.
Whether or not it's feasible with a specific wheel starts with a drawing of a side-view of the shape of the seat and then drawing the result after material is removed to achieve the desired shape. _________________ - Jim
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Current: 1990 Westy Camper - Bostig RG4, 2wd, manual trans w/Peloquin, NAHT high-top, 280 ah LFP battery, 160 watts solar, Flash Silver, seam rust, bondo, etc., etc.
Past: 1985 Westy Camper - 1.9 wbx, 2wd, manual trans, Merian Brown, (sold after 17 years to Northwesty who converted it to a Syncro). |
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jimf909 Samba Member
Joined: April 03, 2014 Posts: 7472 Location: WA/ID
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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Snoww_ wrote: |
Realized about a year ago I got some advice from this thread and never posted a progress picture. Thanks for the help and thanks to Chris at T3 for the hardware.
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That's pretty. _________________ - Jim
Abscate wrote: |
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Current: 1990 Westy Camper - Bostig RG4, 2wd, manual trans w/Peloquin, NAHT high-top, 280 ah LFP battery, 160 watts solar, Flash Silver, seam rust, bondo, etc., etc.
Past: 1985 Westy Camper - 1.9 wbx, 2wd, manual trans, Merian Brown, (sold after 17 years to Northwesty who converted it to a Syncro). |
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VicVan Samba Member
Joined: July 01, 2015 Posts: 1845 Location: Vancouver Island, BC
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Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 3:48 pm Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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Hi
I found these, from a 2001 Mercedes E320. 16", ET 41.
Would they fit a stock 2WD Westfalia (auto)? I understand I would need some spacers.
Thanks _________________ '90 Little Blue Truck, 2WD auto, FAS GenV 2.0 NA (AVH) |
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jttosh Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2004 Posts: 451 Location: Cuyahoga Falls,Ohio
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 11:01 am Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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I have steel rims on now and I am switching to alloys and General Grabbers. Do I need to change all lug nuts for this switch?
Pictured is what I have on now
Thanks
_________________ "listening for the secret,searching for the sound" |
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levi Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2005 Posts: 5522 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 12:02 pm Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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Yeah I think the alloys take conical and the steelies are ball seat.
I think, I'm not sure. _________________ One of these days I'm gonna settle down,
but till I do I won't be hangin round.
Going down that long lonesome highway,
gonna see life my way
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jttosh Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2004 Posts: 451 Location: Cuyahoga Falls,Ohio
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 12:09 pm Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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Thanks
Probably need these?
Just trying to make sure before I purchase
_________________ "listening for the secret,searching for the sound"
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levi Samba Member
Joined: February 11, 2005 Posts: 5522 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 12:10 pm Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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Yes
Assuming you mean the stock vanagon alloys and not something other like from a mercedes. _________________ One of these days I'm gonna settle down,
but till I do I won't be hangin round.
Going down that long lonesome highway,
gonna see life my way
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jttosh Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2004 Posts: 451 Location: Cuyahoga Falls,Ohio
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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Yes, stock Alloys _________________ "listening for the secret,searching for the sound" |
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Jake de Villiers Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 5911 Location: Tsawwassen, BC
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jttosh Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2004 Posts: 451 Location: Cuyahoga Falls,Ohio
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Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:02 pm Post subject: Re: "What wheels fit?" The ultimate wheel post. |
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Thanks
Jake de Villiers wrote: |
Yes, that's the right hardware for the OEM Vanagon alloy wheels. |
_________________ "listening for the secret,searching for the sound" |
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