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Santana Samba Member
Joined: March 18, 2008 Posts: 146 Location: T-Town, WA
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:57 am Post subject: Re: San Diego Tire and Wheel - got some nice 17x8!! |
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DAAAAAAAAAMMMMN! That is a sweet looking setup! _________________ PHOTO GALLERY |
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TheHippieVanMan Samba Member
Joined: July 07, 2011 Posts: 152 Location: Toronto, On, Canada
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Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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Thinking about getting these for my 79' bus. Any thoughts as to if they will work or if they would require much modifications?
rim size:17"x7"
bolt pattern:5x112/105
offset+42
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Nachtfalter Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2011 Posts: 139 Location: Surf Beach California
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SteveVanB Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2008 Posts: 1645 Location: This side of Daytona
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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_________________ 91 CARAT
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Jake de Villiers Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2007 Posts: 5911 Location: Tsawwassen, BC
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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Those wheels were imported and sold by Jeff Schwaia. I don't believe he's doing that anymore - he's concentrating on his business as a registered vehicle importer, Autostadt West. He's one of the good guys! _________________ '84 Vanagon GL 1.9 WBX
'86 Westy Weekender Poptop/2.5 Subaru/5 Speed Posi/Audi Front Brakes/16 x 7 Mercedes Wheels - answers to 'Dixie'
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SteveVanB Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2008 Posts: 1645 Location: This side of Daytona
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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_________________ 91 CARAT
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Nachtfalter Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2011 Posts: 139 Location: Surf Beach California
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Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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SteveVanB wrote: |
Can't bullshit a bulllshitter....... |
Im sorry you think anyone would bullshit about wheels on a vw van. Perhaps in your life people are that sad. I deleted the photos and Im going surfing. Enjoy yourself. |
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SteveVanB Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2008 Posts: 1645 Location: This side of Daytona
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Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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_________________ 91 CARAT
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Crankey Samba Member
Joined: July 11, 2004 Posts: 2659
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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sometimes I run across the same wheels with slightly different ET's
I attribute this to different amounts of material machined off the mounting surface of the same wheel casting.
so, my question is, if one was going to have the bolt face machined off to change ET from 28 to 30 on a 17x8 wheel...what would be the minimal acceptable material thickness for the lug to hang on to on an aluminum rim ?...if you get me.
on a 17x8 wheel with an ET of 28, one would have just a little too much poke I think. if the best ET is 30...maybe 28 isn't too bad. I have run ET 32 with a about 3/16"" spacer, which is pretty close to 4mm.
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5390 Location: PNW
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Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:27 am Post subject: |
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You are correct that two wheels that otherwise are the same yet have differing offsets have their wheel mounting points machined differently to achieve that different offset. However, nearly every wheel also has the lug seats machined to match the particular offset so that the wheel thickness through the lug hole is uniform throughout their wheel line, regardless of the offset. This means that most often, there isn't much material that can be machined off of the backside.
A good rule of thumb, is that you want a cast wheel to be at least 8-10mm thick (depending on the quality of the wheels) as measured through the lug hole from the base/bottom of the lug seat area down to the wheel/hub mounting face, and a forged wheel to be 4-5mm thick through this same area.
Sometimes 2mm makes all the difference in the world, either visually, fitment wise, or both. But other times, a 2mm difference is just being picky. _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
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Dimitrios Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2005 Posts: 113 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Loogy,
I would like to fit Porsche 928 flat dish wheels 16 inch in my syncro.
My car is a standard 14 inch.
To fit different width wheels is a big no no at a syncro correct ?
And if I put same size tyres the outer diameter differnce it will be greater than the 2mm that is allowed ?
As I love to have 7s in front and 8s at the rear.
So if I am correct 7s all around.
What adapters do I need and can I use Porsche factory alloy lugnuts ?
Thank you very much,
Jim _________________ Used Porsche 911 & VW 091 & 094 transaxles!!! |
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Steelhead Samba Member
Joined: February 25, 2007 Posts: 1791 Location: Kentfield, CA
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:47 pm Post subject: |
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These seem like they could almost be a nice direct swap, no?
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/pts/2540233389.html
16x6.5" OEM VW tiguan wheels w/215/65 eagle tires
centerbore and caps need adjusting but isn't this otherwise pretty good? _________________ '77 Bay Window / '89 Caratsburg (aka. the Stormtrooper) |
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5390 Location: PNW
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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Yep, open up the centerbores and run the correct lugs and your golden...other than the center caps. _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5390 Location: PNW
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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Dimitrios wrote: |
Hi Loogy,
I would like to fit Porsche 928 flat dish wheels 16 inch in my syncro.
My car is a standard 14 inch.
To fit different width wheels is a big no no at a syncro correct ?
And if I put same size tyres the outer diameter differnce it will be greater than the 2mm that is allowed ?
As I love to have 7s in front and 8s at the rear.
So if I am correct 7s all around.
What adapters do I need and can I use Porsche factory alloy lugnuts ?
Thank you very much,
Jim |
Theoretically, if you run the exact same diameter tires front and rear, your viscous coupling won't know the difference. Whether or not you decide to do this is completely up to you.
For adapters, I would run a 20mm front and 27mm rear.
Yes, you can use factory Porsche lug nuts with the adapters as long as the adapters have 14x1.5 studs, like ours do. _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
*Custom wheel hardware for Audi/VW, Porsche and Mercedes wheels - Urethane Suspension Bushings*
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Dimitrios Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2005 Posts: 113 Location: Athens, Greece
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Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:35 am Post subject: |
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Hi Loogy,
Thank you for the great info.
It will be just great if I can use 7/8s instead of 7s all around.
What size tyres are recommended for my bare stock Syncro 14" ???
Could you please pm for cost and shipping for a set of your adapters?
They need to be shipped in Athens, Greece
Thank you,
Jim
PS Forgot to mention that these wheels are not stick out of the wheel wells correct ? _________________ Used Porsche 911 & VW 091 & 094 transaxles!!! |
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Johnny_the_boy Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2005 Posts: 7 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:32 am Post subject: 2002-05 Passat "Road America" 16" Rims |
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Hey Loogy, longtime lurker, getting close to pulling the trigger, but before I launch into specs/questions, I just want to say MANY THANKS! for all the effort you have put into this and other threads. I hope that you are reaping the well-deserved benefits on t3technique.com
Anyhoo, my question is about these guys:
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/2551703859.html
99% sure they are these
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-01-02-New-Beetle...398wt_1026
Which have an ET of 37. So a few Q's...
Any idea about centerbore/lug width/lug seats?
And also, with an ET of 37, will 7mm front and 12mm rear do it for spacers?
The tires alone are making me think these are a good deal. |
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5390 Location: PNW
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:19 pm Post subject: Re: 2002-05 Passat "Road America" 16" Rims |
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Johnny_the_boy wrote: |
Hey Loogy, longtime lurker, getting close to pulling the trigger, but before I launch into specs/questions, I just want to say MANY THANKS! for all the effort you have put into this and other threads. I hope that you are reaping the well-deserved benefits on t3technique.com
Anyhoo, my question is about these guys:
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/pts/2551703859.html
99% sure they are these
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VW-01-02-New-Beetle...398wt_1026
Which have an ET of 37. So a few Q's...
Any idea about centerbore/lug width/lug seats?
And also, with an ET of 37, will 7mm front and 12mm rear do it for spacers?
The tires alone are making me think these are a good deal. |
Thank you for the kudos and well wishes. T3 Technique is going strong and growing all the time.
As for those wheels and tires, the tires are just a bit light on the load ratings at 94 (Nokian i3). Something to consider when it comes to the purchase price.
You will have to have the centers of those wheels machined out to 66.56mm and the center caps won't fit. We may be able to machine up some of the Wolfsburg caps to fit, but you would have to mount the wheels and take some measurements to know for sure.
The cross section of the wheels through the lug hole is about 8mm and they will require small ball seat lugs.
For 7mm front spacers (and assuming stock brakes), you would want either 32mm long bolts or 32.25mm (no lead) conversion studs along with the small ball seat lug nuts.
For the rear with stock brakes and 12mm spacers, you would want 52mm studs and small ball seat lug nuts. _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
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Johnny_the_boy Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2005 Posts: 7 Location: Portland, OR
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Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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As for those wheels and tires, the tires are just a bit light on the load ratings at 94 (Nokian i3). Something to consider when it comes to the purchase price. |
Nice eye. I thought they were the WR C Van, or the WRG2's, but now I see you're right. Didn't look at the tread closely enough.
Oh well, back to staking Craigslist. I'm sure I'll be hitting you up for what I will need to buy from you again at some point in the future.... |
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SteelB12 Samba Member
Joined: December 21, 2010 Posts: 591 Location: Central Virginia
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Christopher Schimke Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2005 Posts: 5390 Location: PNW
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Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Depending on the tire size used, you would need a 7-10mm spacer for a 2wd (nothing for a Syncro) and there may be some minor center cap clearance issues, but that may be able to be corrected via spacers and/or trimming the front grease caps (2wd). Correct lugs and longer rear studs (if spacers are used on the rear) would also be needed. _________________ "Sometimes you have to build a box to think outside of." - Bruce (not Springsteen)
*Custom wheel hardware for Audi/VW, Porsche and Mercedes wheels - Urethane Suspension Bushings*
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