Converting Westy stove to Coleman propane fuel...

bucko · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:24 pm Post subject:

Perhaps we can get "Mythbusters" to do an episode on this.

mobowesty · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject:

Hey, I like that! Smile

And maybe we can get that Boston cop to appear on MythBusters who escorted me out of the tunnel tollbooth and turned me around. He can explain to the world (as he explained to me) that even an EMPTY propane tank can create an explosion hazard in the tunnel.

Empty propane tanks. Be afraid... BE VERY AFRAID! Anxious

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Wellington · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 2:22 pm Post subject:

I inquired about going through tunnel here as my welding equipment was mobile. Funny thing is I was told fro personal use no problem. A company can not go through a tunnel. Must be the conception of quantity.

erdonline · Posted: Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:04 pm Post subject: propane bottles

I believe the issus with bottled gases, at least with propane, is not necessarily the risk of explosion of the tank itself (although I'm sure that is of at least some concern) as it is with leaking gas and the fact that propane gas is heavier than air and would tend to "pool" in the tunnel, creating the explosion hazzard as sources of ignition drive by this accumulated propane pool.

Ed

Old_Ben_Gun · Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:18 pm Post subject:

furrylittleotter · Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2015 10:06 pm Post subject:

Holy resurrected thread , Batman!

FYI; it is both safe and legal to carry lp in a vehicle if it is in a sealed, unlocked, vented-to-outdoors top and bottom, cabinet.

I posed this question a few weeks ago and the safety patrol nearly spilled their wine coolers replying that it was both illegal and unsafe.

I did my own research. Not true. As usual.

Neil2 Cool

Westified · Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:06 am Post subject:

danfromsyr · Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:16 am Post subject:

these people make refillable 1# bottles and a "system" for the DIY. not to bad if you use them alot like in small MR buddy heaters etc..
http://www.propane-refill.com/

the BIG BOOK on LPG rules
https://law.resource.org/pub/us/cfr/ibr/004/nfpa.58.2004.pdf

crazyvwvanman · Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:18 am Post subject:

The thread pot Neil is stirring is for hooking up an inside cylinder to run appliances. There is no sealed compartment in a Westy and no upper and lower vented compartment either. To comply you would have to seal off a compartment and then vent it to the outside with upper and lower vents. Then there is supposed to be a an outside door to allow the tank to be turned on/off. The outside door can also be one of the vents. So while it can be done in a safety compliant fashion that is not how a typical Westy owner would do it.

Mark

Zeitgeist 13 · Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:39 am Post subject:

I can confirm that it's very easy to overfill those little green propane cylinder. If I do it again, I would weigh a new fully filled cylinder, and then use that weight as my guide regarding proper fill amounts. I was in a time pinch, so I followed instructions gleaned from the interwebz, which stated that you close the tap when it "sounds" like propane has stopped flowing--bad idea. I most definitely would not want to travel distances in high temps with these DIY filled cylinders, as they will in fact vent into the atmosphere
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furrylittleotter · Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:56 am Post subject:

Corwyn · Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:13 pm Post subject:

1. Did anyone actually answer the OP's question?
2. Is there a pic of the 1lb Coleman can attached under the sink?
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crazyvwvanman · Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:47 pm Post subject:

It was 9 years ago!

Mark

msinabottle · Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:22 pm Post subject: Problem Very Easily Solved

It's very easy to use cylinders with one's standard propane system. Have a look HERE:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=353952

It works quite well and gives utter peace of mind.

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Corwyn · Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:59 pm Post subject:

I just like to stir things up. I was looking for the info and didn't see the answer.

Nine years ago? Is there a date beyond using these threads is inappropriate? Smile

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Abscate · Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:55 pm Post subject:

Look at the rough size of a small one use propane tank, like a really large coffee cup or small pot.

Would you carry a container of gasoline this size in your car open to the air?

If the valve fails , this is exactly what you are doing carrying around propane.

I've had three valves on cylinders fail in my lifetime.

The other issue about refilling them is that the 25# propane you buy for your grill is wet whereas the disposable grade LP is especially dry, to prevent corrosion of the tank.
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vanagonjon · Samba Member Joined: July 17, 2006 Posts: 230

Why not just sit a Coleman two burner propane camping stove on top of your stove while is is closed up and use it. Golly, you could even move the stove outside on top of the picnic table at the campground in good weather and stop getting all the hot splashing debris from frying all over the inside of your expensive Westy.

Zeitgeist 13 · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:53 am Post subject:

When I lived in my '67 split for a year, I used a two burner Primus stove and those green cylinders. I had installed cabinets from a '78 Bay Westfalia, so I had the stove sitting right where the factory unit would normally reside. Worked perfectly adequate for my purposes
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DLJ · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 8:56 am Post subject: propane bottle mounting

Think about the gas tank just under your passenger!
The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!

Abscate · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:44 am Post subject: Re: propane bottle mounting


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