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Concept1
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 Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:09 am Post subject: Split Air cleaner? |
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Is this a correct Split (52') air cleaner? (to the right of the fan shroud) I know it's not the typical T-type, but the PO thought it may have been correct for the Canadian (colder climate) market (?)
Thanks in advance.
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lurkinstock
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:14 am Post subject: Split Aircleaner |
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The split aircleaners that I'm aware of are the early split small mushroom, the " T " or coffee can, and the ultra rare cyclone ( which looks like a gatorade bottle turned on it's side. That looks like a 55 or so oil bath.  |
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Concept1
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:17 am Post subject: |
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| Sorry... I should have taken a better picture of it, but it has a wingnut to hold the top plate on. The oval one's I've seen have one strap or two clamps on the sides. Does this help? |
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Burman
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:43 am Post subject: |
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The one in the picture looks correct. Talkin about rare this is the rarest!!
It was used just before the strap-one in 1952.
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Concept1
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Awesome, Thanks for the info! |
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Wiggy
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Burman
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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The information I have is that the oilbath-filter came (20 of August 1952). Just before the zwitter was introduced. And the wingnut version was the first version. This means no zwitters ever came with a T-aircleaner (others than the ones that had to wear this unfasionable "carburator-hat"
due to economic/emptying the shelfs reasons. Zwitter standards maybe)
Wich also means that the last splits had the wingnut aircleaner  .
But who am I to tell?...I wasnīt even borned in 1952 |
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Wiggy
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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They must have went into both then, because I could swear I've seen early OG zwitters with the T aircleaner. Maybe its like the Cyclonic aircleaner, different ones went to different countries depending on the climate (i.e, cyclonic for dusty conditions)?
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Burman
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Could be..could be |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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I think it should have a T air cleaner
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billmetric
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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the wing nut oil bath was an accessory, it is "correct" for a split though, I wouldn't deduct any points for one at a concourse, zwitters did use the T-filter unless they had a cyclone or the accessory oil bath type, later in 53 the oil bath got the strap top without the rain guard lip then the 3rd version of the oil bath had the strap and splash guard rain lip, despite how rare the early oil bath is I think anyone would exchange one for the T-type because of its much higher cool factor
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I think the wing nut oil bath is way cooler than a common T. |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Well common in the split world I mean, I seem to see at least one per week for sale on the samba or Epay I rarley see the othes except for the later mushroom air clean used on industrail engines ect not the early rare real ones. I never have seen the strap cleaner with the wing nut for sale. |
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Burman
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:29 am Post subject: |
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I wouldnīt agree to say the oilbath was an accesorie. They were introduced as an original VW part in 1952 and cars were fitted with these
at the factory from that year. Maybee U.S models were different and kept the T-aircleaner longer, I donīt know
Keep the wingnut!...Way coooler if you ask me |
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kevm
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:40 am Post subject: aircleaner |
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| [email protected] wrote: |
| Well common in the split world I mean, I seem to see at least one per week for sale on the samba or Epay I rarley see the othes except for the later mushroom air clean used on industrail engines ect not the early rare real ones. I never have seen the strap cleaner with the wing nut for sale. |
What are the differences between early (rare) mushroom aircleaners and late industrial ones ? are they different makes ?
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53 0val
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:17 am Post subject: |
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| billmetric wrote: |
| the wing nut oil bath was an accessory, it is "correct" for a split though, I wouldn't deduct any points for one at a concourse, zwitters did use the T-filter unless they had a cyclone or the accessory oil bath type, later in 53 the oil bath got the strap top without the rain guard lip then the 3rd version of the oil bath had the strap and splash guard rain lip, despite how rare the early oil bath is I think anyone would exchange one for the T-type because of its much higher cool factor |
My '53 has the early strap on a non-lipped filter. Interesting, as I thought the lip had something to do with heat and not water. The water explanination makes more sense. 
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oval53/split52
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 7:32 am Post subject: |
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| billmetric wrote: |
| the wing nut oil bath was an accessory, it is "correct" for a split though, I wouldn't deduct any points for one at a concourse, zwitters did use the T-filter unless they had a cyclone or the accessory oil bath type, later in 53 the oil bath got the strap top without the rain guard lip then the 3rd version of the oil bath had the strap and splash guard rain lip, despite how rare the early oil bath is I think anyone would exchange one for the T-type because of its much higher cool factor |
My '53 has the early strap on a non-lipped filter. Interesting, as I thought the lip had something to do with heat and not water. The water explanination makes more sense. |
My june 53 beetle also got this non-lipped filter without wingnut . I allways believed this was because the lipped filter came in production later. Maybe in 54 sometime. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 10:05 am Post subject: |
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| billmetric wrote: |
| I think anyone would exchange one for the T-type because of its much higher cool factor |
Well, maybe. But the bottom line is, Volkswagen always sent their best stuf to North America first, and the oil bath was clearly a big improvement over the old felt element filter (T-type air cleaner).
In the old Mechannix Illustrated article in which Tom McCahill slogs through the snow on New Years Eve 1952 in an oval-dash split, the engine photo clearly shows the oil bath cleaner. |
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Wiggy
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:07 am Post subject: |
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| Blue Baron wrote: |
| Volkswagen always sent their best stuf to North America first, and the oil bath was clearly a big improvement over the old felt element filter (T-type air cleaner). |
Most of the Hoffman splits I have seen, including my own, had the Cyclonic aircleaner and not the T.
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