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RedDawg Samba Member
Joined: September 17, 2006 Posts: 29
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Oh yeah! All this talk about how Koni shocks can greatly improve your bus ride and the possibility of this offer never happening again, I'm sold! |
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whc03grady Samba Member
Joined: February 07, 2004 Posts: 337 Location: Livingston Montana
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Even installation is fun!
Bad shocks come out...
...good shocks go in.
You've gotta love a WestyWife. _________________ 1974 Westfalia "Ludwig"
1971 Squareback "Gertie"
Read about their adventures
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Busdepot Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2004 Posts: 1347
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Update ...
Down to just 5 sets as of this writing. So get 'em quick if you want 'em.
I am already talking to Koni about another run, but because these are custom made, delivery usually takes months. While they haven't given me a timeframe yet, based on past history I'd expect it to be spring or summer. _________________ - Ron Salmon
The Bus Depot
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fusername Samba Member
Joined: March 15, 2006 Posts: 2899 Location: Boston MA
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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There is no way I can afford a full four set, so If I were to only upgrade one end, which would you guys reccomend? Front or rear? _________________ [email protected]
Need something custom bent up? shoot me an email, maybe we can make it work!
FORSALE: Thrust cut T4 and 1.9 main bearings
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Maybe Ben Pon's ghost comes and vomits NOS stampings for your bus, but not mine! |
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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Does KONI offer any advice about pre-installation?
I remember in the days of old that oil filled shocks were to be upright in the open position for a few days. Also heard to turn them upside down and cycle them a few times.
Looking to get the fullest benefit from them
Thanks, Regis
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thesykboy Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2006 Posts: 144 Location: Littleton, Colorado
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Ron,
Glad to hear you are working on another run with Konis! I am too broke to afford them now, but I REALLY want a set (as well as a set of good tires - possibly Nokians)
Are you pretty sure that another run will happen? After riding in DurocShark's Guacamole bus, I am sold on the Konis... just don't want to miss out on them for good. |
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covelo Samba Member
Joined: February 20, 2005 Posts: 826 Location: Fairfax, CA
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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fusername wrote: |
There is no way I can afford a full four set, so If I were to only upgrade one end, which would you guys reccomend? Front or rear? |
I would recommend the front just because the rear can be fitted from another car, but the front is unique to the bus. _________________ '80 Vanagon Westfalia
'72 Bay Window Westfalia (with 2L AVP engine and dual solex carbs) -- sold in 2009 |
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Blu67Bug Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 1011 Location: 50 Minutes N of the Big Apple
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:35 am Post subject: |
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I can't tell what brand of shocks the PO installed, but they were certainlly "jury-rigged". For some reason, the PO used some brass fittings as "spacers" to make the front shocks work. I'm glad I bought the Koni's 'cause I'd not have checked that area since the shocks were working.
With the Koni's, the bus feels better, firmer and more stable, especially in the crosswinds. I'm glad I put mine on. _________________ '67s Rule & '71 Buses Too! |
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volksterii Samba Member
Joined: December 01, 2006 Posts: 425 Location: San Diego CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:06 am Post subject: |
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I just received my Konis on Friday and installed them yesterday. I had KYB GAs all the around. The Konis do have a better feel.
_________________ 71 Westy Hardtop, 1915
2005 Touareg V8 air susp. |
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thesykboy Samba Member
Joined: May 21, 2006 Posts: 144 Location: Littleton, Colorado
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:15 am Post subject: |
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Someday soon, yes, someday soon (we need an emoticon of Mr. Burns twiddling his fingers saying "eeeexcellent") |
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RedDawg Samba Member
Joined: September 17, 2006 Posts: 29
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Posted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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I just received my Koni shocks from Bus Depot the other day and they arrived only with a few chips off the paint. Nothing that a little paint brush and the right paint color couldn't solve if I wanted them to look perfect.
Rick was the one who helped me a number of times at Bus Depot with my Koni shocks order and I have to say he was professional, pleasant and one super cool dude! I appreciate that type of service. I definitely will order from Bus Depot again. They even kept updating me with the status of my Koni order via email. How cool was that!
I will again order from them for much needed bus item purchases after Christmas. Thanks Ratwell and Ron for working with Koni on another group buy. |
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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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Put the KONI's on our 78 westy today. Easy task.
I do like the ride. I adjusted the front 1/2 turn from soft and the rear 3/4 turn from soft. I have just under two full turns of adjustment.
I played with various settings just to see the deal. When on full hard, they were hard to open. Full soft was compliant.
I read ratwells plethora of info about the KONI's and even went onto their site for yet more info. I'll use my inital settings as a baseline.
So the two things I like about them is the adjustablility and the fact that when fully extended they are 1/2" or so longer than the extended suspension. So if I ever get airborn...!
I also had a brass spacer on the lower front studs. I didn't know if they were KYB specific or what. So I fitted the KONI without it. I didn't like the way the rubber bushing would've rubbed against the torsion arm. I reinstalled the spacer.
Peace, Regis
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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:55 am Post subject: |
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If I was forced to critique the KONI's... I would only suggest that for the bay bus, have the stud in the center of the rubber bushing a tad longer so that it protrudes past the rubber. This would allow the bushing to be fully independant to flex without fear of being comprimised as the suspension goes through it's travels.
My thoughts alone.
They're gonna work just fine
Peace, Regis
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Blu67Bug Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2004 Posts: 1011 Location: 50 Minutes N of the Big Apple
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:32 am Post subject: |
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I agree with Regis 101, I also didn't like the way the Koni rubber rubbed against the side of the suspension, so I added a large washer on the inside of all the shocks. I also added a star type lock washer to the "outside" of each where the nut clamped down on the stud/bolt. I figure that way I won't have to worry too much about them coming loose.
I also have to complain about the instructions that came with the Koni's. They were useless! I had to go to Ratwell's site to copy/download the correct way to adjust them. The instructions included were NOT for the style of shocks I received, and that's a minor, but annoying, problem. _________________ '67s Rule & '71 Buses Too! |
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regis101 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2005 Posts: 2078 Location: Livermore, Ca
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:51 am Post subject: |
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I wasn't too worried about the top mounting. It is pretty stationary. The bottom would be the area to address. But it is really no big deal.
I did reinstall the brass spacer on the bottom and this has the nut only getting about 2/3 of the threads getting used.
I may go back and remove them and just use a washer . May have done that at the start. Didn't have any 12mm ones on hand.
As for the directions. They are the pictural worldwide ones and yes, somewhat confusing. Mostly as mentioned, they were not for my shock type.
Once again, No big.
They were still worth every penny and I would buy them again.
Gonna lower the tire pressure about 10 psi fr and rr. Cushier even yet.
Hope I don't fall asleep at the wheel from all that gentle motion.
Peace, Regis
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Hanz Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2004 Posts: 142
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 3:25 am Post subject: Camping trip |
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I received my Koin's for the front and rear (thanks Bus Depot) and I now have them installed. I have a 1973 westy that I am taking camping up to Big Sur this week. I adjusted the shocks 180 from stiff and so far I have been really happy with the results. I am going to load up the bus with camping gear approx. 150lbs. + dog. Do you guys recommend that I bring the shocks up to full stiff for better handling with the weight load for windy trip up Highway 1? I am more concerned about handling than comfort... Thanks,
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:54 am Post subject: |
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I like the front ones at the "soft" or "pretty soft" setting and have the rears at "firm". Works for me. |
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westy78 Samba Member
Joined: August 20, 2002 Posts: 2005 Location: Portland OR
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:31 pm Post subject: |
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I've had my '78 loaded for two weeks on the road and weighed in at just under 4,200lbs (including me and the hound) with my Koni's. Full soft in front and one full turn in the rear has always worked for me. _________________ Jasan C.
'78 Westy
VW Campmobile, it goes on vacation with you. |
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blitzkrieg59 Samba Member
Joined: July 04, 2001 Posts: 873 Location: Davenport, Iowa
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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Put my Koni's in just before the motor blew in my 77. In the few miles that I drove the bus with them on, I must say that 1 half turn from full soft on the front is WAY to soft for my likings. I am more concerned with the handling side than comfort however. I felt that the front of the bus rolled more with the Koni's on than it did with the old delcos that I took out. When I get the bus back I am going to rip out of the fronts and reset them to one full turn past full soft and see how that feels.
Long story short, if you are more concerned with handling, do one full turn or more. _________________ SST X, XI, XII
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Busdepot Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2004 Posts: 1347
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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I have a handful of Koni's back in stock.
Koni still hasn't told me when most of my shipment will arrive (probably sometime in the late spring, I'd guess, but that's not a promise). But they had enough raw materials on hand to build me about a dozen sets right away, so they sent me those in the meantime.
Because I don't want to get stuck with an unsold pair of fronts or rears for months until the rest come in, I will only offer these to people who are buying all 4 shocks at once. The links are as follows. I will do my best to pull them from the site quickly once they are all spoken for, so no one is disappointed.
http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=802110
http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=802220 _________________ - Ron Salmon
The Bus Depot
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