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vwgearhead
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 Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:06 am Post subject: porsche fuchs (901s) 5.5s and deep 6s |
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Hello,just camp up on a set of early fuchs 901 part numbers for my ghia,they need to be polished or chrome plated,I want them chrome but I have heard negative things outside of polishing them,can any one help me out and let me know if it really makes a difference? ok thanx!  |
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glandnut
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66 Käfer
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| Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 10:40 am Post subject: |
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| Another reason why I personally would stay away from chrome plating is the fact that you are adding weight to the wheels especially if it is a quality plating job. To properly plate aluminum, the part has to be zincated first, then at least couple of layers of nickel, a semi-bright layer and a bright layer to help with corrosion protection, and then comes a layer of copper which can be buffed to get a better plating job, and lastly the chrome. As you can see ech layer adds metal to the part and that metal has a weigh to it therefore a properly chrome plated wheel will weigh considerably more than a polished wheel. |
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joe comfort
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| Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| If you get them chromed and you "accidentally" scratch them up against a curb or whatever, you will have to get the whole wheel stripped and re-chromed as opposed to the latter which would only require some sanding and polishing. Besides the chroming and process weakens the aluminum, not a big deal till you are cruising the freeway at 75 MPH and experience an "oh shit".. Just polish them. |
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Skim
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| Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 10:25 am Post subject: |
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You guys crack me up. Chrome doesnt weaken the wheel. If that was the case, all new aftermarket wheels would be polished but they are chromed, very few big SUV wheels are powder coated with a polished lip but atleast 90% are chrome plated nowadays. Even the Porsche dealerships offer chrome plating exchange services.
I wonder if anybody has truly broken a chromed Fuch because they are not cast wheels they are forged. Highly stronger than most wheels out there. I have even seen some Fuchs bent in half like a taco before without breaking. As for weight, let me have Rich weigh his chrome deep 6 and compare it to a non chromed deep 6 and see what we come up with.
Most people that down play 'chromed' Fuchs never owned 'chromed' Fuchs. If they did and they had a bad experience with the chrome, they had a shit ass plater. As for them chipping, thats the chance you take. Nobody should be running them up on curbs in the first place.
I dont think Al Reed would be chroming them if it damaged them.
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66 Käfer
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| I don't know how much heavier it makes them but for me personally Fuchs alloys di not look good chrome, I'm not into that whole bling thing. They are beatiful wheels just as they are. I have never been fond of all chrome wheels or black wheels for that matter. It just a matter of opinion. If I understood the whole thing about the chroming process weakening the wheels, it happens if the process is not done correctly. The newly manufactured wheels that are chrome are done properly with the heat-treating in-between and all that so in the case of the SUVs with the twenyfoes and what not, it is irrellevant, they are made that way to begin with, the problem is if you take it to a local plating shop that is not set-up to do wheels the right way. |
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lonotch
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| Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 5:57 pm Post subject: |
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Taste great!
Less filling!
Do what you like.
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| lonotch wrote: |
Taste great!
Less filling!
Do what you like. |
Doit to a fuch!
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| Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| 66 Käfer wrote: |
| The newly manufactured wheels that are chrome are done properly with the heat-treating in-between and all that so in the case of the SUVs with the twenyfoes and what not, it is irrellevant, they are made that way to begin with, the problem is if you take it to a local plating shop that is not set-up to do wheels the right way. |
The newer aftermarket wheels I spoke of are made and chromed in China. Eitherway, Factory option wheels get sent out by local dealerships to qualified platers. If you dont like them because of Bling factor, thats one thing and I can totally accept that but people telling this guy it weakens the wheels is absurd. Al Reed does an excellent job chroming Fuchs and Im sure far better than a newly manufactured 'cast' chrome wheels. Most shitty chrome shops wont even touch early Fuchs because they cant get down in the grooves properly. Either way, Im not arguing Im just stating that a lot of info gets twisted up sometimes.
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El Guero
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my early 6 in stock form weighs 12lbs
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...... but people telling this guy it weakens the wheels is absurd. Al Reed does an excellent job chroming Fuchs and Im sure far better than a newly manufactured 'cast' chrome wheels. ...... |
It is not a myth that chroming can weaken the aluminum, if the process is not done properly.
All those "factory" chromed wheels obviously follow the proper procedures during chroming to avoid weakening the wheel.
Since you can never tell if the chroming shop performed the proper intermediate steps to avoid weakening the metal, you can't say all chromed Fuchs haven't been compromised. If the shop quotes you a very low price for chroming, you can bet he's skipping critical steps.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:26 am Post subject: |
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Bunch a F**k'n hype. This is Some shit for myth busters.
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LOL.........  |
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| texasbrown54 wrote: |
| my early 6 in stock form weighs 12lbs |
my 6 w/o centre cap and no wheel weights or valve stem comes in just under 11 - |
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Bruce
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| 70 140 wrote: |
| texasbrown54 wrote: |
| my early 6 in stock form weighs 12lbs |
my 6 w/o centre cap and no wheel weights or valve stem comes in just under 11 - |
I suspect your wife has altered your bathroom scale.
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| pipster wrote: |
| Bunch a F**k'n hype. This is Some shit for myth busters. |
Not hype. Google this: "Hydrogen Embrittlement".
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joe comfort
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Good point Bruce!
Come on guys, you can't argue proven facts, it's science for God sakes!  |
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| i think you need to ask yourself, what will you do with them in a few years when chrome plated rims go the same way as choptops, frenched headlights and turquoise paint? |
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