Front sidemarker - turn signal modification

[BayCreamPuff]

[obnoxiousblue]

Finally got this done! Thanks for all the help!

Video of the markers

Link

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Mike
1964 Beetle
2001 Eurovan Camper

[chabanais]

Well done, son.

I may have to do this mod... and get them to blink alternatively.
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[old DKP driver]

Same here, i think i will also do this as i am Not a purist and totally
enjoy my 3rd brake light from gowesty as well.

way too many asswipes out there texting 24/7
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V.W.owner since 1967

[BusLightyear]

So, I know this is an old thread, but I hope some of you can help me out with some directions.

I've just imported a '77 US spec westy to Europe (Denmark). It comes equipped with side markers and US spec front lights. In order to get the bus registered in Denmark, I need to both replace the front lights to H4 and add turn signals on the side of the bus.

I thought I'd use the redundant (in Europe at least) front side markers for adding/converting into turn signals as described in this thread.

The only problem is that in Denmark we're required to:

a) drive with the front lights on all the time
b) have turn signals that are turned off when not flashing
c) have turn signals that are all in sync.

Is there any way to modify the described procedure/wirering so I'm able to reuse the frontside side markers as turn signals and at the same time fulfill the requirements as stated above?

I guess what I need is the crossfeed mod, but with the side markers being off when the front lights are on. This would mean turn signals flashing in unison and side markers being off when turn signals are not flashing. All with the front lights being on.

I'm thinking that european born vans which came with on the side turn signals must have somehow been wired up to flash in sync and stay off when not flashing, but I can't find any information about wirering anywhere.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

[NASkeet]

[jtauxe]

[BusLightyear]

Thanks for clearing it up a bit!

If I were to fit new Hella turn signals on the b-post of my bus, where would I wire up the two wires? I guess one of them would be spliced to the green turn signal wire on the front turn signal but where would the other one go if I want turn signals that are off when not flashing and I have the front lights on?

And wouldn't fitting an extra set of turn signals on the side of the bus require another kind of relay for the turn signal as i guess the stock one is meant for only two in the front and two in the rear? Or is the extra two (4w?) bulbs not a problem in the circuit?

Sorry for all the questions but I have a lack of knowledge when it comes the electrics.

/ Simon

[NASkeet]

[NASkeet]

These are the instructions in German which come with the B-pillar mounted, turn-signal lamps (Hella part No. 2BA 001 227-211:

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Nigel A. Skeet

Independent tutor (semi-retired) of mathematics, physics, technology & engineering for secondary, tertiary, further & higher education.

Much modified, RHD 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, with the World's only decent, cross-over-arm, SWF pantograph rear-window wiper

Onetime member, plus former Technical Editor & Editor of Transporter Talk magazine
Volkswagen Type 2 Owners' Club (Great Britain)

http://www.vwt2oc.net

[coolerthanelvis]

[NASkeet]

Keep in mind Shawn, that the factory-stock, North American specification, 1973~79 VW Type 2, front side-marker lights, were incorporated into the front-panel mounted turn-signal lamps, on either side of the ventilation grille, rather than the cab-door mounted amber side-marker reflectors.

I acknowledge that it is practical to substitute rear engine-compartment, side-panel mounted, side-marker lamp bulb-holder base plates, in place of the cab-door mounted side-marker reflector base plates, in order to convert them into front side-marker lamps.
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Regards.

Nigel A. Skeet

Independent tutor (semi-retired) of mathematics, physics, technology & engineering for secondary, tertiary, further & higher education.

Much modified, RHD 1973 VW "1600" Type 2 Westfalia Continental campervan, with the World's only decent, cross-over-arm, SWF pantograph rear-window wiper

Onetime member, plus former Technical Editor & Editor of Transporter Talk magazine
Volkswagen Type 2 Owners' Club (Great Britain)

http://www.vwt2oc.net

[Spud72]

Sorry I know that this is an old thread but it looks like the best one.

I want to make my UK late bay more visible ( also I like them ) so want to have USA front indicators on it so that they glow orange as driving lights in addition to the side lights.

Does anyone have a picture of inside the unit - is it a twin filament bulb or is the housing different with 2 bulbs, I cant find out much about 73 and later over here. If it is twin filament if anyone has a picture of the bulb holder it would be brilliant.

thanks

[pioneer1]

Ok but does the wide edge face of the lenses forward or towards the rear
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'85 Porsche 911 Targa

'76 Westfalia project

[dwill49965]

[daves_ale]

I'm digging this. Booked marked and added to the list for the '78 and '71.
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'66 Euro Beetle 1200A
'71 Single Cab
'78 Westy
'02 Jaguar XK8 convertible

[NASkeet]

[gbrumage]

Sometimes old threads are the best threads.

I decided to follow suit as well as upgrade to LEDs.
Found some awesome waterproof red and amber that snugly fit an 11/32 hole. The center hole, without the socket is too big, so i gutted the socket and used it as a spacer. I gave each a touch of super glue.

They're built and tested but I haven't fitted them yet. The center is running the two outside are turn indicators.