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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:21 am    Post subject: Parcel tray changes Reply with quote

I think it changed and the lip was fatter in 64 but anyone know pre 64 changes? Thanks.I am trying to figure out what year trays will be correct for a 63.Thanks Tom

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Screws used, according to Parts book:
M6x10 phillips head screws
Lock washers

Count varies by year, either 3 or 5 screws - see thread below for more information

5 screw example
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I remember that when I was restoring my 1963 camper, its tray looked the same as the trays for my 1957 bus and my two 1958 buses.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Changed around the same time as the speedo pod, i.e 61. If Campys 63 was the same as his 58 then the 63 had the wrong tray.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would a 1963 tray look like?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thin lip to thick lip in mid '61. the speedo pod also had a bigger cutaway for the parcel tray, and eventually became more rounded around the speedo.
somebody with progressive refinements will be able to pinpoint these dates.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I havent had many 67's,and Ive never needed a parcel tray so...Is that also 67 only item?I just want to make sure Im looking for the right thing(nice pearl white parcel tray)and dont want to buy something that wont work...Thanks
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What year did the backside drop down. I assume it was for wiper motor clearance. Was it 65?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bryan67 wrote:
What year did the backside drop down. I assume it was for wiper motor clearance. Was it 65?

I know that '66 and '67 buses take the later tray. I think that '65 takes the earlier one.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool, thats what I was thinking actually. I`ve never owned a Bus newer than 64 and my Panel came to unassembled (Wiper motor out).
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Lind.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a June 12 61 bus with a thick lipped parcel tray and pointy speedo pod.
The tray changed from thin lip to thick lip a couple months before my bus was built, but I can't nail it down any closer than that.
Clara has an April 61 bus and I think hers is thick lip as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to VW the pod and tray changed on April 11,1961
however, the pointy pod tray was in use later. for a few months, perhaps.
The tray was changed somewhat earlier (not sure exactly when)


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April 18, 1961:
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A 63 or 65 definately takes the later tray
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Anybody know what year the parcel tray under dash change Reply with quote

Is there a FAQ thread (I couldn't spot it!) about under dash trays or "shelves"? If not, there should be! The thread ought to discuss the various year modifications to the shelves, knicknames for trays/shelves, the vinyl liners on certain models, and correct fasteners. There are probably more minutia that also needs to go here, so everyone feel free to pile on!

I think that when they changed from the "thin" lip to the "fat" lip tray in 1961 the trays were no longer held to the front of the Bus by five (5) dome-headed Phillips head machine screws. The "fat" lip trays were now held on by only three of those screws plus bolt hardware and a bracket to the steering column. Also, around 1966 ? the top edge of the vertical wall of the tray dipped down in the center of the tray approximately 27mm or so to add clearance for the late 6 volt and 12 volt cannister style wiper motors.

Come on moderators! If this isn't already a FAQ sticky, please make it so!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 10:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Parcel tray changes Reply with quote

I don't know all the details to make a thread but I added this thread to the FAQ.

Please post any information you have and I will add a summary to the first post.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 5:55 am    Post subject: Re: Parcel tray changes Reply with quote

Okay so my August 1960 has the pointy corners on the speedo pod but looks like a fat lipped dash tray, question is whilst it looks original should it be thin lipped?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: Parcel tray changes Reply with quote

Not sure on your RHD but my 8/60 Truck pictured above looks thin-lipped.
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To be more specific, the M-code date for my Truck is August 11, 1960
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Parcel tray changes Reply with quote

Additional Parcel Tray photos from my 8.60 Double Cab to show the 5 mounting screws:
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A member asked if all thin-lip parcel trays used 5 screws to hold it in place, versus 3 for fat lip trays.
I suspect the answer is Yes but do not know.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2018 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Parcel tray changes Reply with quote

Hey there. I bought this tray as a gift for my buddies 59 panel. Looking at these pictures Iím still not sure what I have, I know a 59 used the thin lip style.
Will the later fat lip trays mount up OK to a 59? Thank you. Sorry for the horrible pictures. I can take more photos if needed

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: Parcel tray changes Reply with quote

Question since this thread doesn't exactly state it:

Where all fat-lip parcel trays the same until the end of split-window production?

I just purchased a '67 project that is missing a fair amount of parts and the parcel tray is one of them. It appears that fat-lip parcel trays are the same from late 61-67?

Were they are changes to the 66-67 parcel trays to clear the different style wiper assembly?

Just wanted to confirm.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 1:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Parcel tray changes Reply with quote

No, not all fat lipped parcel trays are the same.
Early fat lip trays had a flat top

April 61-65: from the gallery, ignore the red arrow
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66-67 fat lipped trays had a dip in the top, possibly to allow the 66-67 wiper motor to fit. Hope this pics helps. It's my 66 kombi.
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Thin lipped trays were used until ~March 1961

Fat lip trays were used from ~ April 61

The notch in the speedo pod fits the parcel tray.
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