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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:47 pm    Post subject: Relocating oil pressure switch Reply with quote

I'd like to write a short article on oil pressure switch relocation.

How many different ways are there of doing it?

- VDO hose
- aircooled.net hose

What else?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a company in Ontario I think that has a relocation kit with a hose and "threaded block" that does it also (although I have the aircooled kit).

421 something?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ontario? Millersville, MD is what their website says.

This is their old unit:

http://www.42draftdesigns.com/product/42004.htm

This is the new one:

http://www.42draftdesigns.com/product/vdo/42004.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That top one is the one I was thinking of (although it does look like a grease gun hose to me.

I have never seen one in the flesh.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would definitely recommend the use of a rubber hose. Systems I have seen using rigid pipe scare me, too easy to break off or damage the block.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That top one is the one I was thinking of (although it does look like a grease gun hose to me.

I'm sure it is after seeing what the kit includes.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't the sending unit need to be grounded to work? I would think only steel braid hose would accomplish that without adding a pesty ground wire.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Doesn't the sending unit need to be grounded to work?

Yes.

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I would think only steel braid hose would accomplish that without adding a pesty ground wire.

If the sender is touching the case? Sure.

Take a section of wire and clamp it to either end of the hose fittings and ground it the same way.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sender would ground through the steel braid. The adapters and hose ends are steel or aluminum. They would pass the ground.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My kit attaches to the firewall and is grounded there.

I wish it were 2" longer though. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i will send some photos of other methods i have used. my favorite is to modify the 3-4 tin so the vdo dual pole sender can be installed directly in the case without any extension. it is the cleanest way by far, but it does involve modifying the tin.

i have also used rigid pipes. i have a rigid pipe in my personal 79 westy for 5 hard driving years with no issues, however i do worry about it the way wildthings mentions. originally the hard pipe was done as a temporary measure, but it because permanent, the way some temp measures have a habit of doing Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i will send some photos of other methods i have used. my favorite is to modify the 3-4 tin so the vdo dual pole sender can be installed directly in the case without any extension. it is the cleanest way by far, but it does involve modifying the tin.

I first saw this done several years ago by Steve Dolan althought I'm sure he wasn't the first to try.

VDO used to sell a key that fit the top of these senders so you could tighten them down in this obstructed position.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Relocating oil pressure switch Reply with quote

ratwell wrote:
I'd like to write a short article on oil pressure switch relocation.

How many different ways are there of doing it?

- VDO hose
- aircooled.net hose

What else?


Hey guys. I'm sure I'll read the article with interest... But out of curiosity, why relocate the sender? Is it just for convenience? Space concerns?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Relocating oil pressure switch Reply with quote

fukengruvenoval wrote:
Hey guys. I'm sure I'll read the article with interest... But out of curiosity, why relocate the sender? Is it just for convenience? Space concerns?

It's about relocating the VDO sender (360 006 and 360 001) which is too large to fit in the hole that the stock sender goes through.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Relocating oil pressure switch Reply with quote

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fukengruvenoval wrote:
Hey guys. I'm sure I'll read the article with interest... But out of curiosity, why relocate the sender? Is it just for convenience? Space concerns?

It's about relocating the VDO sender (360 006 and 360 001) which is too large to fit in the hole that the stock sender goes through.

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Thanks! That explains it... On an unrelated note my wife's 2002 Ford Escape has a blinking oil light, not fixed by replacing the sender. It's a high mileage car, light goes out if you raise the RPM by 50 or so, been doing it forever. I've often thought of getting the hose setup with the VDO switch / pressure sender if it would fit on the Escape... That's why I'm reading this post with interest...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What gauge are most people going with? The VDO 0-150 psi one?

http://www.42draftdesigns.com/product/vdo/vc350108.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sender you choose has to match the range of the gauge.

Beyond that, most people choose 80psi since you will rarely see readings above. If you get the 150psi gauge, you'll have a harder time reading the numbers near the bottom of the range.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ratwell wrote:
Ontario? Millersville, MD is what their website says.

This is their old unit:

http://www.42draftdesigns.com/product/42004.htm

This is the new one:

http://www.42draftdesigns.com/product/vdo/42004.htm


I have the old model however I never used it. Scott convinced me to go with the duel pole set up which is much cleaner in appearance and does not have any extra parts. I still have the 42 draftdesigns model on a shelf in my garage…
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CJMazier wrote:
I have the old model however I never used it. Scott convinced me to go with the duel pole set up which is much cleaner in appearance and does not have any extra parts. I still have the 42 draftdesigns model on a shelf in my garage…

I guess that's one of the reasons they shrunk it into that tidy package.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess that one advantage of moving the sender would be that it would be readily apparent when it leaks. Laughing
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