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ratwell Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 12:47 pm Post subject: Relocating oil pressure switch |
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I'd like to write a short article on oil pressure switch relocation.
How many different ways are there of doing it?
- VDO hose
- aircooled.net hose
What else? _________________ '78 Westfalia CDN
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
Joined: August 03, 2003 Posts: 34890 Location: The Beach
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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There is a company in Ontario I think that has a relocation kit with a hose and "threaded block" that does it also (although I have the aircooled kit).
421 something? |
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ratwell Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2003 Posts: 8717 Location: Victoria, BC
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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That top one is the one I was thinking of (although it does look like a grease gun hose to me.
I have never seen one in the flesh. |
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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I would definitely recommend the use of a rubber hose. Systems I have seen using rigid pipe scare me, too easy to break off or damage the block. |
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ratwell Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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Randy in Maine wrote: |
That top one is the one I was thinking of (although it does look like a grease gun hose to me. |
I'm sure it is after seeing what the kit includes. _________________ '78 Westfalia CDN
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MarkWard Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2005 Posts: 17009 Location: Retired South Florida
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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Doesn't the sending unit need to be grounded to work? I would think only steel braid hose would accomplish that without adding a pesty ground wire. |
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ratwell Samba Member
Joined: April 26, 2003 Posts: 8717 Location: Victoria, BC
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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rsxsr wrote: |
Doesn't the sending unit need to be grounded to work? |
Yes.
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I would think only steel braid hose would accomplish that without adding a pesty ground wire. |
If the sender is touching the case? Sure.
Take a section of wire and clamp it to either end of the hose fittings and ground it the same way. _________________ '78 Westfalia CDN
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MarkWard Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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The sender would ground through the steel braid. The adapters and hose ends are steel or aluminum. They would pass the ground. |
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Randy in Maine Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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My kit attaches to the firewall and is grounded there.
I wish it were 2" longer though. |
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germansupplyscott Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2004 Posts: 7090 Location: toronto
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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i will send some photos of other methods i have used. my favorite is to modify the 3-4 tin so the vdo dual pole sender can be installed directly in the case without any extension. it is the cleanest way by far, but it does involve modifying the tin.
i have also used rigid pipes. i have a rigid pipe in my personal 79 westy for 5 hard driving years with no issues, however i do worry about it the way wildthings mentions. originally the hard pipe was done as a temporary measure, but it because permanent, the way some temp measures have a habit of doing _________________ SL |
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ratwell Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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germansupplyscott wrote: |
i will send some photos of other methods i have used. my favorite is to modify the 3-4 tin so the vdo dual pole sender can be installed directly in the case without any extension. it is the cleanest way by far, but it does involve modifying the tin. |
I first saw this done several years ago by Steve Dolan althought I'm sure he wasn't the first to try.
VDO used to sell a key that fit the top of these senders so you could tighten them down in this obstructed position.
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fukengruvenoval Samba Member
Joined: December 07, 2004 Posts: 774 Location: OSHAWA, ONTARIO, CANADA
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:18 pm Post subject: Re: Relocating oil pressure switch |
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ratwell wrote: |
I'd like to write a short article on oil pressure switch relocation.
How many different ways are there of doing it?
- VDO hose
- aircooled.net hose
What else? |
Hey guys. I'm sure I'll read the article with interest... But out of curiosity, why relocate the sender? Is it just for convenience? Space concerns? _________________ Check out my video series at www.youtube.com/midnightoilgarage |
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ratwell Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Relocating oil pressure switch |
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fukengruvenoval wrote: |
Hey guys. I'm sure I'll read the article with interest... But out of curiosity, why relocate the sender? Is it just for convenience? Space concerns? |
It's about relocating the VDO sender (360 006 and 360 001) which is too large to fit in the hole that the stock sender goes through.
Images not to scale. _________________ '78 Westfalia CDN
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fukengruvenoval Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:00 pm Post subject: Re: Relocating oil pressure switch |
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ratwell wrote: |
fukengruvenoval wrote: |
Hey guys. I'm sure I'll read the article with interest... But out of curiosity, why relocate the sender? Is it just for convenience? Space concerns? |
It's about relocating the VDO sender (360 006 and 360 001) which is too large to fit in the hole that the stock sender goes through.
Images not to scale. |
Thanks! That explains it... On an unrelated note my wife's 2002 Ford Escape has a blinking oil light, not fixed by replacing the sender. It's a high mileage car, light goes out if you raise the RPM by 50 or so, been doing it forever. I've often thought of getting the hose setup with the VDO switch / pressure sender if it would fit on the Escape... That's why I'm reading this post with interest... _________________ Check out my video series at www.youtube.com/midnightoilgarage |
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david_594 Samba Member
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ratwell Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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The sender you choose has to match the range of the gauge.
Beyond that, most people choose 80psi since you will rarely see readings above. If you get the 150psi gauge, you'll have a harder time reading the numbers near the bottom of the range. _________________ '78 Westfalia CDN
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JMazier Samba Member
Joined: February 20, 2006 Posts: 900 Location: In my garage, Georgetown, Ontario, Canada...
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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I have the old model however I never used it. Scott convinced me to go with the duel pole set up which is much cleaner in appearance and does not have any extra parts. I still have the 42 draftdesigns model on a shelf in my garage… _________________ Cheers!
Jérôme
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ratwell Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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CJMazier wrote: |
I have the old model however I never used it. Scott convinced me to go with the duel pole set up which is much cleaner in appearance and does not have any extra parts. I still have the 42 draftdesigns model on a shelf in my garage… |
I guess that's one of the reasons they shrunk it into that tidy package. _________________ '78 Westfalia CDN
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Wildthings Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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I guess that one advantage of moving the sender would be that it would be readily apparent when it leaks. |
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