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rjonas Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2004 Posts: 644 Location: Chandler, AZ
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:13 am Post subject: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Ok, I have spent hours going over lowering threads and now armed
with the concepts and lingo I can't find pictures of the finished look
and information all in one thread.
I am in the planning stages of lowering my bus and would like to see
what your bus looks like and specifications on your mods.
Please post a side or angled picture of your lowered bus and specs:
-Tire make and size.
-Wheel make, size or offset.
-Spindle drop, beam narrowed dimensions. Who's?
-Strait axle, spring plate mods. Who's?
-Tubbed, cut tortion, IRS, etc..
-Raised box, tie rod flip.
-Brakes, shocks.
-If I ever do this again I would have........... _________________ 1979 Type-2 Westfalia “Sandy”
1973 Type-181 Thing "Velma"
1956 Type-1 Beetle Patina Project “Rosie”
www.azbusclub.org
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RINC Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2005 Posts: 3877 Location: A Sunny Place For Shady People
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:31 am Post subject: |
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165-45-15 on the front. 195-50-15 on the rear with correct dated for my bus stock rims.
Nates 4in beam with adjusters an drop spindles.
68 Type 1 tranny with Nates spring plates.
No tubs or steeringbox raise. |
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NAES Samba Member
Joined: September 10, 2003 Posts: 2120 Location: AREA-52 Southern Killafornia
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: |
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2" narrowed and adjustable beam (by me), Dropped spindles (by me), Straight axle (butcher shop), Spring plates cut about double normal amount with the cut metal welded to the other side for strength (by me), stock bus brakes all around w/machined snout, crowsfoot wheels up front with Kumho 195/45/15, non crowsfoot wheels out back w/ 3/8" spacer with Michelin 195/60/15, KYB white shocks all around with extended mounting perches front and rear.
If I were to do it again I'd powdercoat all the suspension, buy the CB performance tierod flip kit instead of welding and retapering the spindle, go for the 165/45/15 tires up front (will do eventually).
My single biggest piece of advice to you when you do this is to replace everything. Center pin, tie rod ends, seals, drag link, steering dampener, all of it. It'll cost more but you'll have a super tight setup. _________________ Barndoor Mafia
Box On Wheels
SBS #00 |
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RobzKombi Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2003 Posts: 2137
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: |
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1. 4" narrow beam with adjusters. (Wagenswest)
2. flipped spindles (Micheal Anderson)
3. Wilwood disc brakes (Pete- Airkelwed)
Rear
1. Straight axle (Rancho transaxles)
2. lowered one notch
3. Type 3 brakes. (DDB in Oregon with Parking brake adapter from I think Wagonswest not too sure)
Tranny and wheels
1. Mike from Stuff transaxles built F/F
2. MSW BRM repros
Shocks
1. KYB silver
Tires
1.Front-195-45-15
2.Rear--195-60-15
Full flowed 2027cc with dual 40's
1-1/2" A1 ceramic coated header
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rjonas Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2004 Posts: 644 Location: Chandler, AZ
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Those are awesome guys! Exactly what I am looking for.
Keep them coming.
Man, I forgot about tubbing the wells.
Also, I read someone in Japan narrowed his rear tortion
to get some fat tires in there. Anyone tried that? _________________ 1979 Type-2 Westfalia “Sandy”
1973 Type-181 Thing "Velma"
1956 Type-1 Beetle Patina Project “Rosie”
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Rynos63 Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2004 Posts: 71 Location: Strathmore Ca,
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:18 am Post subject: |
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4.5 narrowed beam with drop spindles and raised steering box in the front and no tubs...
Type 1 I.R.S. in the rear
Brakes are stock Bus drum in the front and stock Type 1 with 4 to wide 5 lug adapters in the rear
All done by me...
As for tires 165 45/15 in the front and 185 55/15 in the rear |
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bastardbus Samba Member
Joined: July 13, 2000 Posts: 1768 Location: Toledo, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:23 am Post subject: |
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Good idea for a thread! _________________ Samba Member #95 |
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superpilot Samba Member
Joined: February 10, 2005 Posts: 117 Location: Gloucestershire
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:11 am Post subject: |
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rustisnotacrime wrote: |
165-45-15 on the front. 195-50-15 on the rear with correct dated for my bus stock rims.
Nates 4in beam with adjusters an drop spindles.
68 Type 1 tranny with Nates spring plates.
No tubs or steeringbox raise. |
nice setup really good stance . What shocks are you using up front? _________________ Remember In the event of a crash the nearest exit may be behind you!!!
www.krazydubclub.co.uk |
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RINC Samba Member
Joined: July 22, 2005 Posts: 3877 Location: A Sunny Place For Shady People
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:13 am Post subject: |
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superpilot wrote: |
nice setup really good stance . What shocks are you using up front? |
White KYB's. |
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WideFive SBS Hit Squad
Joined: August 20, 2002 Posts: 1147 Location: Litchfield, Ohio
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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165/45/15, 195/60/15
Appliance Pacer rims
My dropped spindles, '64-'67 Bus Boys adjustable non-narrowed beam
Bus Boys (I assume) straight axle, Trans: '73 Type I converted to swing w/ super diff, 3:88R&P w/ 0.89 4th
Front: Stock, Rear: '68 backing plates, Type I drums and Super Beetle front wheel cylinders.
White KYB's all around _________________ Aaron D. Badertscher
Click here for ALL my links. |
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beelzibus Samba Member
Joined: March 01, 2005 Posts: 300
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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I've got a narrowed rear torsion tube,not my idea,it was like that when I bought it from a guy in AZ.(anyone know this bus?)
Trans is stock Type 3 swingaxle,fitted with 944 discs,and 5.5" Porsche spacesaver spares,the tyres are 195x65x15,the rims ET34 Shocks are KYB Gasadjust.
At the front i'm on a 64-67 beam,dropped spindles with adjusters, running 944 discs,again porsche spacesaver steel rims,only this time ET 53,tyres are 185x55x15s.Front shocks are gas cofaps.Also running an antiroll bar. |
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20271 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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I have a 65 riviera. Front has stock beam with drop spindles by Tom Conner. Stock brakes and KYB GR2 shocks. Tires are 195/60/15 Toyo on stock bus wheels. Rear is straight axle kit by longroofs with 60's beetle tranny and long axles built by Mitch at The shop, Sandpoint ID. Tubes lengthened by Multitrail Enterprises, here in Sandpoint ID. Stock 68 bug rear brakes with late beetle front wheel cylinders. 4-5 lug adapters from Wolfgang (I think they are 1/2" thick) with stock 15" bus wheels that I had the offset changed. I had the inner section cut out and moved outward about 5/8" which is about the max you can do with the stock VW outer hoops. All this was done by Watt Wheel in Spokane, Wa. All this was done to give me enough room to fit a wider and taller tire in the stock wheelwell. I am currently running a 205/65/15 rear tire. Plenty of clearance between tire and spring plate as well as tire and fender lip. They fill up the hole nicely and look better than the rubber bands I see often on busses. The rear height is adjusted so that when there is no extra load, (no camping gear, kid, dog, single wheel trailer) it sits slightly higher than the front. It has just a slight rake. I run the KYB GR2 on the rear also.
If I had it to do over I would have the rear wheels widened to 5.5 or 6 inches with the same (non-stock) offset. I may change the rear tire size if the gearing seems too tall, but I am in the break-in period of a new 1776 right now (also built right by Mitch at The Shop) so I haven't driven it over any passes yet or any long distances. I am considering building a 2-4 inch narrowed adjustable beam and installing bay window discs with small 5 to wide 5 adapters and full power assist. I may go to rear discs, too. I may also change to the KYB gas-adjust shocks, on the recommendation of some here on the samba. Especially on the front as it seems easy to bottom out the front tires on the wheel well over large bumps and I understand the white shocks are a little stiffer.
I do most of my own work but some things are best farmed out to those who have the skills and equipment to do it better than I.
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Skim Rants Master
Joined: April 15, 2001 Posts: 17082 Location: GFK 31 Year Vet
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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My old 63 Kombi
4 3/4 narrowed beam with drop spindles
Type 3 trans
195x50 front -
195x65 rear -
2 notches down in the rear
polished 5 spokes _________________ GFK
Samba since before the towers collapsed. Still here.
1953 Kabriolet
1954 Sunroof
1959 Lowlight Ghia vert
1960 Lt Grey Double Cab SMZ LEGIT
1963 Deluxe Turkis Walk Thru 15 Window OG Paint |
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Skim Rants Master
Joined: April 15, 2001 Posts: 17082 Location: GFK 31 Year Vet
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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my old 64 standard
4 3/4 beam
drop spindles
67 Bug Tranny
3 notches in the rear
175x55 Smart Car tires
215x60 Yokohama rears
chrome 5 spoke empis _________________ GFK
Samba since before the towers collapsed. Still here.
1953 Kabriolet
1954 Sunroof
1959 Lowlight Ghia vert
1960 Lt Grey Double Cab SMZ LEGIT
1963 Deluxe Turkis Walk Thru 15 Window OG Paint |
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Dewayne Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2003 Posts: 332 Location: Oklahoma
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Dropped spindles with CNC disc brakes on front.
Bus Boys straight axles kit on rear with rebuilt Type III transaxle from German Transaxle of America and Type III rear brakes.
KYB white shocks all around.
Wide Five spoke wheels, with 185X60X15 Bridgestone Potenza tires.
_________________ "My ex-wife had a hint of a beard and she looked like a manly-girl... that made no difference..."
Drive 'em if ya got 'em, and don't brag if you didn't do the work yourself...
'64 SO34
'60 SO23
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RobzKombi Samba Member
Joined: July 15, 2003 Posts: 2137
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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Nice!! |
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mike n kimmie Samba Member
Joined: June 19, 2005 Posts: 43 Location: central calif
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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Rust Box beam narrowed 4.5 adjusters and spindles
and Rust Box strait axel and springplates
165/45s 195/55s on flat 4 replica sprints.
All bolt in,no cutting. |
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DeadEndVW Samba Member
Joined: March 23, 2005 Posts: 543 Location: West Side, burning some trash.
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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4" narrowed with bus boys adjusters - by me
Drop spindles - by me
Straight axle kit - by me
3.88 tranny with .082 4th gear - by Bill Shanks
175-55 up front
185-65 out back
75 miles an hour in third gear |
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sloans265 Samba Member
Joined: October 24, 2004 Posts: 1321 Location: 32207
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Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Wagenswest-spindles & offset springplates
CB performance 2" beam
"63 Type III tranny drum to drum
195/55/15's on front 195/65/15's on rear
No body mods. _________________ 1970 Lotus White Panel
In search of any Pensacola Fla dealership items |
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slow36hp scott wimberley
Joined: August 09, 2004 Posts: 3113 Location: mukilteo washington
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