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samotorsport Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2013 Posts: 199 Location: Luxembourg
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 12:31 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Ah so your og beam is modified to be adjustable. Do you maybe know if max height is stock height or do you get higher as stock beam wise ?
Or do you just can go lower ? _________________ 1958 Dragster 1835cc Topchop
1962 Split Panelvan Camper
1967 Herbie the love Bug
1970 Karmann Ghia 14 |
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Stephbong Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2010 Posts: 167 Location: Brussels
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2019 1:24 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Both Low and High a little bit, but of course the goal is not to go higher with this kind of setup |
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MrBusCo Samba Member
Joined: February 13, 2007 Posts: 1561 Location: stoughton, WI
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Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2020 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Went through a bunch of pages and didn't see anyone running stock 14" bus wheels. I don't know much about lowering buses, just wondering if there is a reason everyone runs 15's? _________________ Josh The Bus Guy formerly known as JOGR
BlazeCutUSA.com MrBusCo.com |
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Split 66' Samba Member
Joined: October 07, 2010 Posts: 1255 Location: Bay Area, California
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Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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On the front, I'm running stock '66 14"s, with stock sway bar and stock spindles, and only an adjustable beam - with the Wagenswest Babystang disc kit:
I can go full left and right without ever touching the wheel wells with the tire, 185/65/14.
15"s probably look better, have a larger selection of choices, and there are more disc kits that fit them.
I run stock 15"s in the rear, for the 25.6" diameter tire size, for final drive ratio, and cooling purposes. _________________ "OG = Original German" -- TheSamba.com dictionary |
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3304HL Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2019 Posts: 8 Location: vancouver
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Hi,
sorting out the specs on the front suspension on my '67 T2.
hoping to run flipped spindle front, stock beam, and stock 15" wheels.
does anyone know of a disc brake conversion that will work with this setup without widening the track and avoid tire interference issues .
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chris henry Samba Member
Joined: October 28, 2004 Posts: 867 Location: porterville ,CA
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2020 10:03 pm Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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3304HL wrote: |
Hi,
sorting out the specs on the front suspension on my '67 T2.
hoping to run flipped spindle front, stock beam, and stock 15" wheels.
does anyone know of a disc brake conversion that will work with this setup without widening the track and avoid tire interference issues .
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the empi kit is probably your cheapest choice. I have installed one without issue. they bolt right up with no mods and the stopping power while not amazing is better than a drum set up |
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3304HL Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2019 Posts: 8 Location: vancouver
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 10:25 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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chris henry wrote: |
3304HL wrote: |
Hi,
sorting out the specs on the front suspension on my '67 T2.
hoping to run flipped spindle front, stock beam, and stock 15" wheels.
does anyone know of a disc brake conversion that will work with this setup without widening the track and avoid tire interference issues .
thanks - |
the empi kit is probably your cheapest choice. I have installed one without issue. they bolt right up with no mods and the stopping power while not amazing is better than a drum set up |
thanks Chris, I'll check it out.
anyone else have other suggestions? |
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chris henry Samba Member
Joined: October 28, 2004 Posts: 867 Location: porterville ,CA
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Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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3304HL wrote: |
chris henry wrote: |
3304HL wrote: |
Hi,
sorting out the specs on the front suspension on my '67 T2.
hoping to run flipped spindle front, stock beam, and stock 15" wheels.
does anyone know of a disc brake conversion that will work with this setup without widening the track and avoid tire interference issues .
thanks - |
the empi kit is probably your cheapest choice. I have installed one without issue. they bolt right up with no mods and the stopping power while not amazing is better than a drum set up |
thanks Chris, I'll check it out.
anyone else have other suggestions? |
Nate at wagons west makes awesome stuff. give him a call and i'm sure he can suggest a kit that meets your requirements. Be prepared to spend in the neighborhood of $1300 and wait at least 6 weeks for delivery |
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J A Red Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2008 Posts: 86 Location: Peachland, BC, Canada
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Stock front beam with flipped spindles, IRS rear (old busboys kit)
944 brakes on all 4 corners
15X 5.5 Fuchs repops from CIP front and rear
Continental Contipro Contacs 175/55 front 195/65 rear
_________________ ‘56 type1 Reed Green Oval Deluxe - sold
‘59 type2 Dove Blue Single Cab - sold
Orange Sherbet Meyers Manx
‘59 type2 light green Double Cab |
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vwy2k Samba Member
Joined: May 20, 2009 Posts: 100 Location: St.Pete
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2020 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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I am finally lowering my bus with the Airkewld kit.
I am having a hard time finding tires in the same brand and model. I want them to match.
Im looking for the below sizes
Front 165/50/15
Rear 195/60/15 or 205 _________________ 1957 Bus ongoing restoration |
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vwy2k Samba Member
Joined: May 20, 2009 Posts: 100 Location: St.Pete
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Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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J A Red wrote: |
Stock front beam with flipped spindles, IRS rear (old busboys kit)
944 brakes on all 4 corners
15X 5.5 Fuchs repops from CIP front and rear
Continental Contipro Contacs 175/55 front 195/65 rear
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How do you like these tires? Would you change the size at all? _________________ 1957 Bus ongoing restoration |
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J A Red Samba Member
Joined: July 12, 2008 Posts: 86 Location: Peachland, BC, Canada
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Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 8:36 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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vwy2k wrote: |
J A Red wrote: |
Stock front beam with flipped spindles, IRS rear (old busboys kit)
944 brakes on all 4 corners
15X 5.5 Fuchs repops from CIP front and rear
Continental Contipro Contacs 175/55 front 195/65 rear
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How do you like these tires? Would you change the size at all? |
I like them. I debated on going 205’s on the back but think these fit the DC and the look nicely. _________________ ‘56 type1 Reed Green Oval Deluxe - sold
‘59 type2 Dove Blue Single Cab - sold
Orange Sherbet Meyers Manx
‘59 type2 light green Double Cab |
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kölner Samba Member
Joined: November 21, 2018 Posts: 5 Location: German
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Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 4:32 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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hello, this is my new 65 panelvan.
I want my fox. Assemble replicas 4.5 + 5.5x 15.
which tire size would you recommend?
At the moment there are 175 70 14 tires at the front and 185 80 14 at the rear.
greetings detlef from cologne, germany
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kölner Samba Member
Joined: November 21, 2018 Posts: 5 Location: German
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Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 2:45 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Hi,
front: 4,5x15 mit 155/60/15
rear: 5,5x15 mit 185/65/15
Gruß
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1957palm Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2011 Posts: 3 Location: Victoria BC Canada
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Posted: Thu Jun 03, 2021 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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1957 PGSG
Front:
175/55-15 on stock early 15" rims
Adjustable 2" narrowed beam by me (at full height)
wheel tucks inside fender lip perfectly
Flipped spindles by me
stock drum brakes
Rear:
185/60-15 on stock early 15" rims ( still needs lowering by 1-1.5")
1/2" spacer by me (1/4" would work as well)
Straight axle kit by me
early bus drums turned lip and snout
late beetle front shoes and cylinders
modified early beetle backing plates (spaced out adjuster mount)
modified (cut)late bus brake cables and spacers by me
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jeffff Samba Member
Joined: February 23, 2006 Posts: 1044 Location: Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Mon Jul 05, 2021 3:33 pm Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Hey guys, will this shock work for the rear of my lowered 62, which is IRS. (KYB 343144) The GR2 shock, which is now called Excel G.
FWIW I also want to use them on the front, which I'm not concerned about... spindles and a stock beam up front.
The bus isn't hammered.
https://www.cip1.ca/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=KYB%2D343144 |
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tweiss9953 Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2010 Posts: 12 Location: New Jersey
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 10:40 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Help!
63 double cab. Running 195/60/15 on all 4. 2 inch narrowed beam up front. Bug trans swing axles and thing rear drums with notched plates. A bit tight in the rear but mainly concerned about running and bottoming out in the front.
Suggestions on tire sizes that I should go to?
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negroprieto Samba Member
Joined: January 23, 2006 Posts: 36
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Posted: Fri Jul 16, 2021 11:08 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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165/55/15 Front
215/60/15 Rear |
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Nabuko Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2006 Posts: 30 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2021 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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Having had lots of help by all the pictures in this topic...here is my setup. This may be helpful for somebody else.
Wanting to go for fully original height, I have no choice but to lower because of the entrance in my garage.
I've been driving a slammed panelvan, but because of the (new) technical control in Belgium, this is no longer possible + looking for more comfort on a sunday drive with wife and kids I've been restoring a 15-window for several years. Almost there...
angle of the springplates on a RGB-gearbox
specs:
front: std 15 inch wheels + hankook 175-55-15 / Std front beam / dropped spindles
back: RGB-gearbox / std 15 inch wheels + hankook 185-60-15 / spring plate angle cf photo
height gutter = 164.5 cm
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vw nutter Samba Member
Joined: April 21, 2016 Posts: 22 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:28 am Post subject: Re: Specs. of tire, wheel, and suspension - Lowered Buses |
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some great info here |
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