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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2021 9:09 am    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

any thoughts here on oils with MoS2 content? looking at a Liqui-Moly 10w-30 semi-synthetic. would prefer a fully synth, but it's the moly i'm interested in.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

There's alot of info here.. Maybe I missed it but anyone using royal purple HPS?


Shows up on my dipstick easier than the clear stuff lol. It has their own anti wear package, synthetic and plenty of zddp...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

HBSTIZZ wrote:
Recomendations for oil in southern california. 1914 motor


10 psi per 1000 rpm on a well warmed up engine.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

Recomendations for oil in southern california. 1914 motor
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

Glenn wrote:
A number of years ago Shell changed Rotella. i have since switched to Bradd Penn.

But i'm no expert.


I've heard that, but I didn't hear that it was nescissarily changed for the worse?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:50 am    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

I used to use the T6 Rotella in my bug for years but after completing my new build I plan to use a mix of Brad penn and Motul 300v ester based oil after break in.

I still use the T6 Rotella in my wagon, but have thought about switching that over to BP also.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 9:11 am    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

A number of years ago Shell changed Rotella. i have since switched to Bradd Penn.

But i'm no expert.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2021 8:26 am    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

Since purchase, I have been using exclusively Rotella T5 15W-40 high zinc oil.

This was recommended to me by multiple ACVW mechanics.

What's the general consensus on this oil?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

Brad Penn has changed their name to PennGrade. it already contains a ZINC Additive.

I suck at math. does it meet the 1200-1500 PPM with .15% Zinc Mass to 1qt?



https://penngrade1.com/wp-content/uploads/PennGrad...s-2019.pdf


Glenn wrote:
There's been too many topics on the same oil subject.
This will be a ongoing topic to discuss what oil works.
Any similar topics in other forums will be pointed to this one and then locked.

Let's keep to the facts and not get into any heated debates.

Basically "clean" oil is best with frequent changes. Organic vs synthetic, single grade vs multi grade, diesel vs gasoline, does it really matter?

Any BS will be deleted, so stay on topic.

Let the debate begin.

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"The most important thing is to change your oil, no matter what the type or grade. Apart from that, the overall consensus is to use 10/30 Oil for most climates worldwide and a lot of people in this thread recommend Brad Penn oil or your favorite oil plus a ZDDP additive."

ZDDP levels should be between 1200 - 1500 ppm, more is not better.

When in doubt, experts recommend having 10 psi per 1000 rpms. For example, if you are running at 3000 rpms on the freeway, you should have around 30 psi when at full operating temperature.


Also see
Importance of choosing the correct oil weight
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

Are all those info suitable for European specs oil?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

"Oil extreme" Does that ring a bell? from maybe 10 years ago
At the time did not appear any different than the other snake oils, tho was endorsed by a handful of guys who weren't shills.
If it works why isn't everybody using it?
Products sold "direct to the consumer" usually means big companies won't buy their bull. But not always.
How is new oil better? ...Hint hint


And yet another example of why looking at the oil elemental analysis is misguided.
High Phosphorous....ok, You do not know if it is slow burn DZZP or or fast

If high calcium.... that might be tons of detergent OR Good ep additives
How will you know?

If you want to mix some 15-40 or 20-50 with some 10-30 to get around the regulations that's fine, but IMO the reputation of the product and instructions on the bottle, are more reliable than the oil analysis.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2021 4:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

francoangellini wrote:

Good point, also zinc ppm is not informed...


Read the article Zundfolge1432 linked to above:

https://www.lubesngreases.com/magazine/zddp-lives-on/

Also most oils with a second number of 40 or above aren't required to have reduced phosphorous so can run the amount of phosphorous the petroleum engineer designing them deems best to go with the rest of the anti-wear package.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2021 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

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francoangellini wrote:
Hi guys;

Will be fine for my bug stock 1600cc??....more than 1000 ppm Phosphorus??
Any experiences?


It doesn't say that it is for use in gasoline engines, but does imply its okay so long as you don't have a catalytic converter. Otherwise I don't know if modern diesel oils that don't carry an "S" rating will do any harm to our older gas engine or not.


Good point, also zinc ppm is not informed...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:01 am    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

francoangellini wrote:
Hi guys;

Will be fine for my bug stock 1600cc??....more than 1000 ppm Phosphorus??
Any experiences?


It doesn't say that it is for use in gasoline engines, but does imply its okay so long as you don't have a catalytic converter. Otherwise I don't know if modern diesel oils that don't carry an "S" rating will do any harm to our older gas engine or not.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 10:47 am    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

Hi guys;

Will be fine for my bug stock 1600cc??....more than 1000 ppm Phosphorus, API service CK4.
Any experiences?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

Zundfolge1432 wrote:
Several years ago I was an oil distributor and this publication I really liked. Itís still around little pricey or free if you are in business. Some of it you can get right off the website. It covers worldwide business so youíll see trends and products before they hit the US market. Highly recommend.

https://www.lubesngreases.com/magazine/zddp-lives-on/


That is a good article, thanks for posting. I knew oils seemed to have become markedly better over the last few years, but didn't know why. Sounds like having a less volatile variant of ZDDP has good all around benefits: less depletion of the amount of ZDDP in the oil over time so it last longer and less ZDDP fouling the converters. I had become quite cognizant that the processing of the base oils had improved.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 10:34 am    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

Several years ago I was an oil distributor and this publication I really liked. Itís still around little pricey or free if you are in business. Some of it you can get right off the website. It covers worldwide business so youíll see trends and products before they hit the US market. Highly recommend.

https://www.lubesngreases.com/magazine/zddp-lives-on/
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

Perfect oil for my VW = 50/50 mix of Brad Penn 10w30 + Motul 300V 0w40 ester based racing oil

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Official "What oil / additives should I use" topic Reply with quote

Wildthings wrote:
SBD wrote:
The picture I see says "ALL-Mileage", not "high mileage."


Yes you are correct, but what the heck is an All-Mileage oil?
Very Happy I don't know but I don't like the idea of high-mileage oils because, along with the higher zinc some claim to have for older flat-tappet engines, they nearly always claim to have additives that soften the seals and make them swell to help stop the leaks in all of those "high-mileage" engines. I don't need that in my newly-built ACVW motor with new seals. Mad Somehow I can't imagine that stuff being good for brand new seals, but maybe I'm wrong? Rolling Eyes
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